12. Learning to Live with Grief and Joy with AURORA
Outrage + Optimism: The Climate Podcast
Persephonica
4.7 • 1.1K Ratings
🗓️ 12 July 2019
⏱️ 48 minutes
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Summary
This week we're taking a break from our normal policy discussions to figure out how to embrace both hope and despair in these difficult times. Christiana reveals her inner dialog of wrestling with how to sustain her "stubborn optimism," and Tom and Paul join in to share their thoughts on why the present moment is both the best of times and the worst of times. Later in the episode, Tom and Christiana sit down with AURORA, Norwegian singer-songwriter. She lets us in on how to make every mundane moment meaningful, and how she embraces grief and joy in the midst of growing global anxiety.
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| 0:00.0 | This week on Outrage and Optimism new podcast about dealing with the climate crisis. Hello and |
| 0:25.0 | I'm Paul Dickinson. |
| 0:30.0 | I'm Tom Riffic Carnack. |
| 0:28.0 | I'm Christina I'm Paul Dickinson. |
| 0:30.0 | Today, we discuss the challenges and opportunities of living through these days of such profound change. |
| 0:37.0 | How do we make sense of the changes we're seeing every day and find a way to keep going when the outlook seems dark. |
| 0:43.0 | Also, we speak to Norwegian singer-songwriter Aurora |
| 0:46.8 | about the music she's been writing |
| 0:48.5 | to try to change the world. |
| 0:50.2 | Thanks for you. So this week we have something pretty different for you. You've been very patient with us as we bombard you with policy conversations engaging as we hope they have been, but this podcast was always going to be more than that. |
| 1:11.0 | So today we're going to do something different. The question we want to |
| 1:14.6 | explore is about how it is to live in this moment of extinction spasm and climate |
| 1:20.3 | breakdown. It is in many ways the best of times and the worst of times to be alive. |
| 1:26.4 | It's painful to see what's happening if you're paying attention, but it's also hard to |
| 1:31.1 | imagine a moment where we could have more of an opportunity to work, to improve |
| 1:35.4 | the state of the world and be more impactful and lead therefore a more meaningful life. |
| 1:41.3 | But we're seeing a lot of people facing really challenging mental states. |
| 1:45.0 | People are concerned about their future and that's taking a big psychological toll. |
| 1:49.0 | Anxiety, depression and anger are all on the rise and while that's all very understandable |
| 1:55.1 | we need to work out how we can live with all of this if we're going to be effective |
| 1:59.4 | in making the changes that we care about. So that's the topic that I want to explore today. |
| 2:05.0 | Christina, how do you respond to that? I'm very impressed. |
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