This is CBS Eye on the World.

Here's John Batchelor.

The Ukraine conflict.

Russia, at this moment, is looking to converse with Washington

about the Ukraine conflict. I welcome Cliff May, the founder and president

of the Foundation for the Defense of Democracy, a think tank I highly recommend. It is not partisan.

And that is rare these days. Cliff, I come to you for your column in the Washington Times. What is a reverse

Kissinger? Good evening to you. Good evening to you. So in the 19th, 70s, Kissinger, and Nixon

decided, you know, we could gain some real benefits and real advantages in the Cold War if we go

to Mousie Dung and we say, hey,

how about a rapprochement?

How about a little bit of detente?

We can give you some.

We can help you.

You can help us.

And Mousie Tong essentially said, okay, yeah.

So they're peeling Mousie Tong away from the Soviet Union.

Now, what made that possible was there was a pre-existing

Sino-Soviet split over ideology, over various strategic decisions, over land and border,

all kinds of things. So they could exploit that. The problem is, one problem is,

there's no Russian Sino split to exploit at this point.

But the idea of a reverse Kissinger is doing the opposite of what Nixon and Kissinger did.

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