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Today in Parliament

12/09/2025

Today in Parliament

BBC

Government

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🗓️ 12 September 2025

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

Alicia McCarthy reports from Westminster as the House of Lords starts two days of debate on plans to legalise assisted dying in England and Wales.

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Order. Order.

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Hello, I'm Alicia McCarthy, and this is the Today in Parliament podcast from BBC Radio 4 for Friday the 12th of September, where debate begins again on the assisted dying bill.

0:18.9

A peer says for some, it's about alleviating fear or bringing to an end the terrible and continuing loss of dignity

0:25.6

and loss of control which has no end except in death.

0:30.6

But a former Prime Minister opposes the bill.

0:33.6

Suicide is not okay. Suicide is wrong. This bill is wrong. And in my opinion, it should not pass.

0:42.1

Also on this programme, MPs begin investigating the state of England's housing and a call for the government to fix the delays in the family courts.

0:50.6

There are 4,000 children who are involved in cases which have been taking more than 100 weeks

0:58.4

to settle in the court system. But first, there have been heartfelt and passionate speeches in the

1:04.1

Lords as the bill which would allow terminally ill people to end their lives was debated by peers

1:09.4

for the first time. The legislation was passed

1:12.5

by MPs in June and is now beginning its passage through the Second Chamber. Under the plans,

1:18.4

adults in England and Wales with fewer than six months to live would be able to ask for an

1:23.2

assisted death, subject to approval by two doctors and a panel. The legislation is being

1:29.2

steered through the Lords by a Labour former Lord Chancellor, Lord Faulkner. Opening the debate,

1:34.6

he said it was an historic occasion. The current law is confused, causes terrible suffering

1:40.8

and lacks compassion and safeguards. People must be at the heart of this debate.

1:47.1

The government's own estimate is that if the law was changed to introduce assisted dying,

1:53.4

less than 1% of deaths would be assisted after 10 years.

1:58.3

He argued palliative care couldn't alleviate pain in all cases. Some people wanted to

2:03.9

end a loss of control and dignity, and if a patient wanted to take their life, they had to do it without

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