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Learn more at realestateforlife.org. Welcome back to Katha Gansers Live. I'm Zach Maxwell.

And I am Cy Kellett. Your host, Joe Heschmire, is our guest. Zach Maxwell, been behind the cameras and running the microphones for how many years? How many years you been here, Zach? Six years. I started interning six years ago.

That's right. You started out as an intern. Go ahead, Joe. You're going to say something? I was going to say a quick point of information. I believe, Zach, you left and then returned, which gives us a little bit of hope for the future.

That was for three months.

Zach previously left Catholic Answers, took another job, just cried himself to sleep every night, couldn't stand it, being away from us.

It's true. It came back. And that's what we're hoping. Actually, we're not hoping that that will happen.

I can't.

I mean, speak for yourself.

I'd be happy to see Zach come back.

I mean, look.

I'm going to live closer to you, Joe.

Oh, yeah, that's true.

So what do you do here, Zach?

Tell people what you do.

It's like, you probably couldn't tell people what you do because you do so much here. I honestly am worried because I don't know who's going to, I know what's

going to happen is you're going to leave and we're going to go, oh, I forgot that he does this. Oh, I

forgot that he does that. And then we're going to have to find someone to do it. That's true.

I forget that I do things too. Can I give a quick example of that? Zach pays the rent on the space

that I'm in. One of those things that could fall through the cracks is you just see me like recording future episodes outside.

Yeah.

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