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Magic: The Gathering Drive to Work Podcast

#1197: Top-Down and Bottom-Up Design Evolution

Magic: The Gathering Drive to Work Podcast

Wizards of the Coast

Duels Of The Planeswalkers, Games, Magic The Gathering, Leisure, Game Design, Mtg, Ccg, Mark Rosewater

4.8743 Ratings

🗓️ 13 December 2024

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

There are two ways to begin a design: from the top down, where you start with flavor, and from the bottom up, where you start with mechanics. In this podcast, I talk about how these two design processes have evolved over time.

Transcript

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0:00.0

I'm pouring my driveway. We all know what that means. It's time with their drive to work.

0:06.6

Okay, so today's topic was requested for my blog. I was asked about the evolution of top-down and bottom-up design.

0:19.5

So the thing about, so I want to go into what they mean and talk about where magic design

0:25.1

used to be and where it is now.

0:28.5

I think, okay, real quick, let me find my term so people know what I'm talking about.

0:32.5

So a top-down design means that the, usually the beginning and the core structure of your set is built

0:41.2

around flavor. The easiest way to think of this is if I took all the names off the cards,

0:49.7

would the thing that holds the set together, would the connective tissue of the set make sense?

0:55.9

Would you understand what's going on without the names and flavor?

1:00.8

A bottom up is a reverse.

1:02.3

It's one where you sort of start mechanically, and the core of what you're doing is mechanical.

1:09.3

Let me give some examples.

1:12.7

Inesrod is an example of a top-down set.

1:16.1

Based on Gothic horror.

1:18.3

And the themes of the set, caring about the graveyard,

1:22.0

caring about monster typo, caring about death.

1:25.8

Those are all things that just play into the general theme of a gothic horror.

1:35.1

But let's say I stripped all the words off the cards.

1:37.4

I just replaced them with, you know, or they're just blank.

1:41.3

And I took all the words that had flavor like, you know, vampire and just replaced them with

1:47.6

type one and type two and type three and type four.

1:51.8

You would look at Innestrade and you would sort of say, oh, I see there's, okay, there's

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