I'm going to Welcome back.

Kathy answers live.

A lot of moving parts this hour.

First moving part is Joe Heshmire.

Apologist extraordinaire speaker at the upcoming Eucharistic Congress in Indianapolis

and author of many books for his fault. Joe Heshmeyer, welcome.

Thank you. It's good to be here.

Did you get to hear any of Father Doherty last hour?

I heard a lot of it. I was very pleased. I like the topic. I found myself thinking about several of the kind of things people

end up asking him about. So I was very pleased. Yes. Yeah. Something that we do well to remember. The part that I was most struck by is when he talked about the over-spiritualization

being a possible sign of a lack of trust in the incarnation.

I know.

Like we have to take seriously that Jesus is fully man and full

humanity includes all of those parts and also that he made us fully human

and this is a good thing not not a curse. Like we're not just

souls trapped in bodies. And so the whole range of bodily experience, including emotions,

is God-given and can be for his glory.

Yeah, I also have to say.

First of all, I love that this guy is forming priests

because he's normal.

He's just a wonderfully normal person.

I mean, other than growing up bilingual and having like a

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