You're listening to the Feel Good Effect.

Okay, be honest.

Is there ever a time that you feel like you get a little sidetracked, worrying about what other people think about you?

Well, in this episode, we're going to tell you exactly how to avoid the likability trap

and how to care less about what other people think and show up as authentically yourself.

Let's make it happen.

Welcome to the Feel Good Effect. I'm your host, Robin Conley Downs, and I help people find time and create space in their lives for what matters most by sharing

simplified strategies for wellness. This podcast is all about real talk, real wellness, and unpacking what it really

means to be healthy. Hey, feel good fam. I am so glad you're here for this brand new conversation

with Alicia Menendez and how to avoid the likeability trap. So Alicia is kind of a big deal.

She is an MSNBC anchor and host of the Latina to Latina podcast.

She's hosted and interviewed and appeared on everywhere from ABC News to PBS.

And she has a new bookout, which is called The Likeability Trap, How to Break Free and Own Your Worth.

Okay, so at its core, this podcast is wellness podcast, right?

We talk about what does it really mean to be healthy?

And we look at mindset, routines, and habits for health and happiness and through this lens of meals, mindset, and movement.

So I bring in guests, though, across the board, I don't always, as you know,

bringing guests that are just going to talk about meals or movement or mind.

I really want to get to the core of this question, like, what is wellness, what is health,

and how are we activating it in our lives?

And Alicia and her work is such a beautiful representation of like the big picture

and what it means to be healthy. Because I don't know about you, but I've definitely experienced

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