Trent.

Matt.

How are you?

I'm doing well.

Answering atheism, how has it held up, your book?

It is the worst book I have written.

No.

Well, it's my first book.

I've learned a lot since then, both in how to write a book and how to approach the subject of atheism.

It's not a bad book, but it's one where I think I might try to approach the subject of atheism again. I'm glad I wrote it because there wasn't a similar treatment on atheism or a Catholic perspective at the time. That was back in 2013 when I wrote it. And I really wanted to help Catholics have a solid response on the issue. So it's definitely subject I I've learned a lot about since I've written the book, and I want to revisit it at some point in the future. I'll tell you something that I've never told you before. Okay. I was sitting in a sushi restaurant in San Diego, and I spoke to you on the phone and we'd never met before. So you hadn't yet started at Catholic Ancassus. And you were talking about wanting to get into debates because we were talking about Dr. William and Craig.

And you said something like,

yeah, I think I might throw my hat in the ring. There was a slight part of me. There was like, all right. Like, I mean, I don't have you that good to throw your hat in the ring. Like, what do you mean for your hat in the ring? And you're that good you've done an excellent job

debating atheists so yeah it's been a good experience and i've really enjoyed the quality of

atheists that i have engaged over the years uh i would say it's increased my very first debate

i was there yeah you were in san diego yeah was was dan barker yeah freedom from religion

foundation dan and i debated again later in Minnesota.

And I think his arguments are really do lack in substance.

And he mirrors the evangelical Christianity that he despises in just like kind of not as intellectually rigorous position.

And since then, I've debated other atheists and other people. And it's something I definitely

want to continue doing for sure. But the question is, can you refute these TikToks that producer Maria

has chosen for us to watch? We will see. Let's see. So let's look at the first one. This is atheism

in a nutshell. One person says, there's a god. An atheist says, can you prove that?

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