Hey, everyone, in today's episode, I'm going to share with you a short excerpt of my recent

conversation with Gavin Ortland at Ruslin-Katee's Bless God Conference, where we talked about a lot

of subjects, but in this clip, we talk about the sacrament of confession. And I'll unpack in

today's episode the evidence that backs up what I said in that exchange. So let's roll the footage.

Seeing salvation as a process, I think makes sense of how we view many of these instances and help people make the Catholic you make more sense. Just to be clear, we would agree with that. Yeah, we would agree with that. We would say sanctification is that. You're being saved, you're being saved, you will be saved. Two, two quick things. Work at your salvation for fear and trembling. The very next verse says,

for it is God working in you and giving you the power to obey him. We would say the only power

you have as a human being is to get yourself to hell. The only way you can get to heaven is

through God. That was back to the anthropology thing of like by your nature. But that we have

but even as Christians,

we are capable of doing that, as Jesus says in John 15, those who do not abide in me shall be gathered up and burned. So we would say, yeah, in doing, in being obedient to God to go to heaven, only, you cannot do that of your own power. It's only by cooperating with God's grace. So you can't get to heaven on your own, you can certainly get to hell on your own.

Yeah, and so I think that pushback we would have is then you have to confess in this way to a priest. Sure. You know, and that's the part. And so that's one of them. That's one of them. And so, you know, if I'm looking at 1st John, if we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all righteousness. If we claim we have not sin, we may come out to be a liar and his word is not in us. That verse specifically would, I would say, strongly imply that we're confessing our sins to Jesus there.

No, because the verb confess, I have a whole article on this. You can look up online,

Trent Horn 1, John 1,9, where I talk about the use of Amalagao and Ex-Amalagao, the word

confess, with only one exception in the New Testament, it refers to making confession. So read

verses 8 and 10, it talks about confessing or speaking New Testament. It refers to making confession. So read verses 8 and 10.

It talks about confessing or speaking to who. It doesn't say anything about presbyters or

priests in here. No, no, but it talks about not to God. It's talking about if we confess our faith

or confessing. If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us.

So it's talking to other people. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purity.

Sure, because Catholics believe that the priest doesn't forgive us, God does.

But he works through the priest, just like he works through the minister of baptism.

Okay. If we claim we have not sinned, we make him out to be a liar. And his word is not in us.

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