I'm a firm believer that like peak creativity comes in some sort of box or some sort of rules and how far you can stretch it out,

but I always encourage people to like flip things around. The We'll see. Welcome to the future podcast, a show that explores the interesting overlap between

creativity, business, and personal development.

I'm Greg Gunn.

When you hear the term sound design,

you might think of fight sequences from action films,

like a fist landing on someone's face, the cocking of a shotgun, or even a building exploding into a giant ball of fire.

But you probably don't think about the subtle atmospheric sound design that permeates your screen.

The icy wind underscoring an Arctic journey.

The ambient noise of a crowded outdoor market unique to Bangkok.

You see, great sound design often goes unnoticed.

It takes you out of your seat and submerges you into the story, adding a new invisible ingredient to the experience.

Today's guest is a sound designer and an acclaimed podcaster, and he's on a mission to get people to curate the sounds in their life.

In fact, you might have heard of his Ted Partner Podcast, 20,000 hurts.

In this unique episode, our guest talks about why sound is just as important as all your other senses.

Because if you care about the taste of your food or the smell of a room, then you should care about sound just as much.

He and Chris discuss the business side of working in sound and what it takes to make a living doing

so.

The storytelling, Sonic branding, and how to get clients excited to work with you on the very first call.

Now I wouldn't call myself an audio file by any stretch, but I thoroughly enjoyed listening to this.

And I hope you do too.

Please enjoy our wonderful conversation

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