I really think the creative side is the most important for us and I think that's you know the foundation and the marketing and the business side around it is like a multiplier of that creative science. The Welcome to the future podcast, a show that explores the interesting overlap between

creativity, business, and personal development.

I'm Greg Gunn.

Streaming great music is easy to come by these days.

You can search for almost any artist you want,

on Spotify or Apple Music and then be

listening to them in a few seconds. I mean even the band Tool finally put their

discography up in the proverbial cloud. But there's one place online that's home to a unique genre of music, music that's

streaming all day and every day, whether you're listening or not.

And coincidentally, I'm listening to it right now

while I write this intro.

Chill Hop music is a music label based out of Rotterdam.

They work with artists who primarily make relaxing beats and music to help you, well, chill. And they stream this wonderful in MeloMusic 24-7 on YouTube. And over the the years have amassed over 3 million subs. In today's

episode we talk with the man behind the music, a man that majored in

international business but is slowly and deliberately finding his way back to creativity.

He and Chris talk about where Chill Hop came from, how they work with artists, and, be business behind it all. So kick back, relax, and please enjoy our conversation with Basp and Lioi.

I'm fascinated by creative people who found a way to build a business around what they love.

And your story is kind of a little different than most of our guests that we have on our show.

So for those people who don't know who you are can you

introduce yourself give us that 15 second bio if you will. My name is

Bosphalewa. I run a music label called Chill Hop Music. Yeah, I'm from the Netherlands and been doing

this for seven, eight years now. And so from what I understand you're a business guy who actually has a degree in international

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