You know, we can't begin to show up differently for our own kids if we're still pretending

to be perfect people with perfect childhoods who parent perfectly 100% of the time.

You know, if we have it taken time to take a long hard look at how we ourselves were

mothered, we aren't going to be breaking any generational cycles.

I'm Amy and I'm Abby and as women, we are constantly comparing ourselves to others.

But your life isn't supposed to look like hers. Being your best self means standing firm in your

decisions and always being willing to grow with a purpose. We get vulnerable and real with an honest

look into the challenges and triumphs we all face. Every woman listening is the opportunity

to choose what life looks like for herself.

Hi guys, today I am so excited to bring you an episode with Steffi Wagner from the

Mother wound project. Right before we crossed our record on this episode, Abby had to scoot out,

she got a call from school so she has to go pick up a sick kiddo. So today on the episode,

you will hear Steffi and I. So Steffi is the founder of the Mother wound project and it is

fueled by the power of lived experience. Every member of their team not only has the relevant

training and experience in fields such as psychology, psychotherapy and program management but also

personal experience with demonstrated recovery from a mother wound themselves. We'll talk more about

what a mother wound is but I can assure all listeners that you will leave this episode being very

glad you listened. Steffi, can you take us back to 2017 when you started the Mother wound project?

How did you get the courage to talk about something that is often left unsaid?

Amy, thank you so much for having me. I'm so excited to be here. Absolutely, I am happy. Let's dive

right in. So 2017, I can't believe that's been gosh, five years ago now. It's still hard to believe

this thing that started out with me sharing my personal journey of mother wound recovery

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