This is Joy.

And this is Claire.

And this is Joy and Claire.

A weekly podcast talk show about the things that bring us together.

Make us happy.

Make us whole.

Make us human.

Welcome back to This is Joy and Claire.

This week on the show, Claire and I talked to Gina DeVee.

We met Gina through Scouts Agency.

Again, that's an agency that we've been working with over the past two years to promote more females on podcasts.

And when I read Gina's bio, I was like, oh, I think we're going to get along really well.

The other thing is that, you know, Claire and I have talked about manifesting before or spiritual

practices before, kind of like how you incorporate that into your life.

I've really dabbled in the manifesting world.

You know, when the secret came out and that was like really big, that kind of blew my mind.

And then I had a boss that was really into manifesting and I learned so much from her.

And I kind of like weave in and out of it in my life, kind of depending on like what mood

that I'm in because sometimes I can just really annoy myself when I get too much into it.

Everyone's different, of course.

But, you know, when I saw Gina's bio, I was like, I really want to talk to her because I need to,

I need to learn more.

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