You're in for a real treat today. Today's podcast guests are podcasters in their own right.

I discovered them on Instagram. They traipsed all the way to Cincinnati to participate in the Brave Lear conference in 2019.

I got to meet them. Wait, let me put that a different way. I was accosted by them out on the sidewalk in front of the hotel where we held the

conference. They came sprinting up. We had a huge hug, took a big selfie and honestly I have been a fan of theirs ever since.

They're bold, they're brave, they have so much to share with us today

and so I hope you'll stay tuned. Today's podcast features

Maron Gurs and Angela Seizer, the inspiring duo behind Home School Unrefined, which is an inclusive

and non-sectarian podcast and a community all about keeping homeschool simple, real, and fun.

These two lifelong learners have been friends for more than 20 years and their breezy chemistry will draw

you into every conversation no matter the topic and trust me they've covered a lot of

topics in their four years of podcasting together.

Marin and Angela are former public school teachers

with their master's degrees in education.

Their families live only a few miles away from each other in Minnesota. They have seven

kids between them with an array of experiences in homeschool, Monissory, Hybrid, Virtual, and even Public High School.

Marin is an extrovert. She loves hiking, music, and exploring new places.

Angela, on the other hand, is an introvert. music and exploring new places.

Angela, on the other hand, is an introvert.

She loves books, plants, and a good movie.

I can't wait for you to get to know both of them.

Before we get started, I need you to know that I mispronounced

Marin's name during this podcast episode because I have a niece named

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