If you really have a drive and you put a lot of work behind something then stopping with something

in favor of something else, that's actually really tough because you build up a ton of confidence and

a ton of motivation to see something through and if it turns out not to have the result that you know you need or you want

then to let that all go that's way harder think, than finishing a project. The Hey, I'm Great Gunn, and welcome to the future podcast.

Today's guest is the CEO and founder of the free web-based prototyping tool,

Framer.

And their mission is to bridge the imagination gap,

so that you, your team, and even your client are all speaking the same language.

In this episode, he shares what life was like as a young kid, growing up with the Netherlands

who is fascinated by computers.

A fascination that developed into a legitimate business that was ultimately acquired by Facebook.

Now, if you're into development or programming and navigating the tech industry, then give this one a listen, because you might learn something.

Also, there's some light swearing in this one, so heads up if you have kids around.

Okay, please enjoy our conversation with Kuhnbach.

So I have some disclosures to make.

The first disclosure is, I'm late to the web design game,

and my team works on web projects, when you're talking all the technology I see

you speaking at these conferences like I kind of generally understand the idea

and what you're doing is important but for people who don't know first of all can you introduce yourself and then we'll get into exactly what it is you're doing today.

Yeah, sure. My name is Kumbok. I'm from the Netherlands. I run a company called Framer together with my co-founder Jordan and Framer is a there's a new type of design tool.

It's it's the idea behind is a little bit bigger than just a design tool.

It's about how people can express ID on computers.

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