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Bad People

111. Pretendians

Bad People

BBC

Society & Culture, True Crime, Unknown

4.41.1K Ratings

🗓️ 19 September 2024

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

"Pretendians" are people who falsely claim a native American or indigenous Canadian identity.

In 2024, a 59 year old woman who falsely claimed her daughters were adopted Inuit girls was sentenced to three years in a Canadian prison. Karima Manji lied about her daughters' heritage to claim $150,000 from funds reserved for Inuit people. The judge sentenced her to more than the two years recommended by the prosecution, stating that Manji had "victimized the Inuit of Nunavut by stealing their identity."

Should crimes involving cultural appropriation attract a heavier sentence?

Hosts: Dr Julia Shaw and Amber Haque.

Producer: Shabnam Grewal Assistant Producer: Rachel Oakes Executive Producer: Innes Bowen Production Coordinator: Juliette Harvey Mix Engineer: John Scott Commissioning Editor: Dylan Haskins Assistant Commissioners: Izzy Lee-Poulton and Sarah Green

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We're living under more tyranny today than our founding fathers did in 1775.

0:05.6

A US presidential election is looming, but underneath...

0:09.6

conspiracy culture rears its head once again and nothing is as it seems.

0:16.0

All those things that we had feared was coming true.

0:18.0

Burn the house down and start over.

0:20.0

It's America through the looking class.

0:23.0

Join me, Gabriel Gatehouse, as the coming storm continues.

0:27.0

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0:36.0

You're listening to bad people on BBC Sounds, the podcast about the bad things people do and why.

0:41.0

No warming up in the episode today.

0:47.0

I'm literally just going to dive straight in here.

0:50.6

I want to know Jules, how would you describe yourself so I'm not talking about the fact that you are a medium height stoner of a blonde I'm talking more about the fact that everybody nowadays on social media is

1:06.6

obsessed with authenticity and where we belong so I just want to ask this question what is your identity what do you

1:15.0

think makes you you I guess you could answer that in some of different ways so I am

1:19.8

a scientist I am a criminal psychologist I'm definitely multi-hyphenated a

1:23.0

scientist I am a criminal psychologist I'm definitely multi-hyphenated as it's sometimes called I'm German

1:26.9

Canadian I am

1:29.2

bisexual so I guess I'm a scientific criminal psychologist German Canadian bisexual.

1:37.0

What about you?

1:38.0

I feel like my work as a journalist is a huge part of my identity but then it's also just an extension of who I am.

1:45.4

But then I guess I've always had a bit of an odd relationship with identity in the sense of culture and race because I'm mixed South Asian heritage with a slice of

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