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Bad People

112. Four Boys

Bad People

BBC

Society & Culture, True Crime, Unknown

4.41.1K Ratings

🗓️ 26 September 2024

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

Three boys from the same Sunderland school were found dead within a few months of each other in the early 1990s. Their deaths were initially blamed on sniffing glue to get high. But the boys' families thought they had been murdered. And they were right. Two years later, Steven Grieveson was convicted of serial murder. But the investigation wasn't over.

Presenters: Criminal psychologist Dr Julia Shaw and journalist and true crime documentary maker Amber Haque.

Producers: Maggie Latham and Rachel Oakes Executive Producer: Innes Bowen Production Coordinator: Juliette Harvey Mix Engineer: John Scott Commissioning Editor: Dylan Haskins Assistant Commissioners: Izzy Lee-Poulton and Sarah Green

Transcript

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0:00.0

We're living under more tyranny today than our founding fathers did in 1775.

0:05.6

A US presidential election is looming, but underneath...

0:09.6

conspiracy culture rears its head once again and nothing is as it seems.

0:16.0

All those things that we had feared was coming true.

0:18.0

Burn the house down and start over.

0:20.0

It's America through the looking class.

0:23.0

Join me, Gabriel Gatehouse, as the coming storm continues.

0:27.0

Listen on BBC Sounds.

0:30.0

BBC Sounds Music music, radio podcasts.

0:36.4

This episode of Bad People contains details of violence

0:39.6

and sexual assault against children

0:41.7

and references to drug taking which some people might find disturbing.

0:48.4

Welcome back!

0:50.5

I'm ready for a fresh case. How about you? Always, but listen Julia, I have been doing some thinking.

0:58.0

Oh. I know.

1:00.0

We cover crime on the show, right? Obviously recent we do historic the lot but why do you

1:06.1

reckon some stories just blow up and embed themselves forever in like the nation's

1:12.1

psyche in a way that just others don't.

1:16.0

Well I mean there's some research on this and one reason is I mean almost obviously right the brutality

1:21.2

of stories so some stories are higher on emotion

1:23.5

and they're going to be generally more likely to be read or to stick in our minds and again

1:28.4

perhaps not surprisingly negative news is not just more sticky but it also

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