So I'm pulling away from the curb.

I dropped my son off of college.

So we all know what that means.

It's time for other drive to work.

Okay, so today, one of the podcasts I've talked about wanting to do for a long time is the 10 most influential people in magic.

And the reason I haven't done that podcast yet is it's tough. I mean,

probably thousands of people have worked on magic. You know, over a hundred have worked on the

design. And it's not an easy thing to narrow it down that so many people have worked on magic.

But I have thought about it.

And one of the people that's a slam dunk entry is a person named Eric Lauer.

So Eric Lauer just retired in December.

And so I decided that Eric Lauer was worthy of his own podcast,

just talking all about the influence he's had on the game.

So today I'm going to talk about sort of Eric, my interactions with Eric and a lot of the stuff that Eric has done and a lot of the things he did for the game.

So today is all about Eric Lauer.

Okay, so the first time I think I ever heard Eric Lauer's name.

So when the pro tour started, for the first eight years, I worked on the pro tour.

I was at every pro tour.

And I was in charge of doing the feature matches.

I did the production on the final day, overseeing the commentators.

And I would do a lot of the interviews.

When players won, I would oversee the interviews.

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