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Paul McKenna's positivity podcast.

Hello, this is Paul McKenna, and welcome to the positivity podcast.

My objective is to interview the most interesting people in the world,

and in the next 30 minutes, get insights and even discover how it is that they do what they do,

what makes them unique and fascinating, their success

mindset, and certainly what keeps them positive. My guest today is one of the best no rugby

players in the world, having played 77 times for his country. He's a Sunday Times best-selling

author for his smash hit autobiography and a DJ.

I'm talking today to James Haskell.

I remember my dad said to me, listen, you can either see this an opportunity to get better

to come back in a year and a half time trial for England under 18s.

You know you didn't put the word and you know you didn't do what was required.

Or you can just give up and play rugby for a bit of fun. I was in the school

gym. I wasn't drinking. I was doing all these other things and a year and a half later, I end up

captaining England under 18s and that showed me in a very short period of time that if you work

and commit and have a plan and discipline, you can get what you want. And I was very lucky because

sometimes it takes people their whole life to figure that out. People message me all the time on Instagram and you know, I just, you know, a couple words from

you would be motivational and I'm like, to be honest you, my kind of motivation to you is not

what you want to hear.

You want me to tell you're brilliant, you're a little unicorn that, you know, deserves everything

in life and impossible is nothing, whereas actually I tell you, shut up, get on with it and that there's no white night going to ride over the hill to save you. You have to make

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