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Magic: The Gathering Drive to Work Podcast

#1089: Expansions Symbols with Daniel Holt

Magic: The Gathering Drive to Work Podcast

Wizards of the Coast

Duels Of The Planeswalkers, Games, Magic The Gathering, Leisure, Game Design, Mtg, Ccg, Mark Rosewater

4.8743 Ratings

🗓️ 24 November 2023

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

In this podcast, I sit down with Graphic Designer Daniel Holt to talk all about the making of expansion symbols.

Transcript

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0:00.0

I'm not pulling on my driveway. We all know what that means. It's time for the drive to work at home edition.

0:06.0

So today's topic was a request for my blog. They wanted to talk about expansion symbols.

0:14.0

So I got the expert, Daniel Holt, the guy who makes the expansion symbols. Hey, Daniel.

0:19.0

Hey, Mark. How's it going?

0:21.7

Okay, so let's, I'm going to give a little bit of history before we dive into, like, how we make them, just so people understand the history of them.

0:28.0

So we have to go all the way back to Arabian Nights, so the first ever expansion.

0:32.8

So the original plan for Arabian Nights was the back was going to be different. I don't know if you

0:38.2

guys have ever seen it. There was like a purple magic back that's going to be the back.

0:41.9

And at very, very late in the process, I mean very late in the process, they thought, you know,

0:47.2

maybe the magic back should all stay the same. And so they changed it. But then they raised

0:52.8

the question of, how do you know that these cards come from this

0:57.0

set?

0:57.9

And so they came up with the idea of an expansion symbol.

1:00.8

So that was kind of a last-minute necessity when they decided not to change the back.

1:05.7

And the very first expansion symbol, Rabid Knights, had a scimitar.

1:10.5

As we'll talk with Daniel, the early symbols were very much, here's an object.

1:14.9

I know we'll talk about how there's only so many objects and stuff.

1:19.2

Yeah, it's very iconic, though, that cimitar.

1:22.5

Yeah, the very, like the, the, so the very first few were, like, was a scimitar for Arabian Nights.

1:28.3

It was an anvil for antiquities, because that was about artifacts.

1:32.0

It was a Roman column for, for legends.

1:34.8

So a lot of the early ones were very simple.

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