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103: Joseph Sternberg Joseph Sternberg analyzes the BBC political bias scandal, which is significant because the BBC is "omnipresent" and arranges the "mental furniture for British society," noting the BBC, funded largely by a mandatory license fee, faced alle

The John Batchelor Show

John Batchelor

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4.52.8K Ratings

🗓️ 19 November 2025

⏱️ 14 minutes

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Joseph Sternberg
Joseph Sternberg analyzes the BBC political bias scandal, which is significant because the BBC is "omnipresent" and arranges the "mental furniture for British society," noting the BBC, funded largely by a mandatory license fee, faced allegations ranging from deceptive editing of President Trump's remarks to the Arabic service pushing Hamas propaganda potentially fueling anti-Semitism, while domestically discussing the UK Labour Party's dilemma over controversial immigration policies to control illegal channel crossings, a crisis that has strengthened Nigel Farage's Reform party.

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0:00.0

This is CBSI on the world. I'm John Batchel.

0:08.1

To my good colleague Joseph Sternberg, member of the editorial board of the Wall Street Journal.

0:12.8

He's in London. He writes political economics column reflecting upon over these last weeks,

0:19.7

the BBC and the scandal of the extremely sloppy but

0:25.2

ineffective editing by the BBC of remarks by the President of the United States on January 6th,

0:31.9

2021. The case is made that it was purposely done to damage the reputation of the president.

0:40.1

However, before we turn to that case, Joe's column includes a paragraph where he itemizes what

0:46.9

the BBC really is. It's not a news show only, or even in majority concern. It is, Joe, a very good evening to you. Use the word furniture,

0:58.1

as in mental furniture. What does that mean? And how does it help explain the BBC? Good evening to

1:03.3

you. Hey, John. Well, I mean, look, we're talking about this big scandal about political bias at the BBC,

1:09.1

which has a lot of dimensions, and I do mean a lot

1:13.3

that we can talk about over the next few minutes.

1:16.6

So the big thing that Americans will have heard about is the fact that the BBC deceptively

1:21.9

edited a clip of President Trump when he was speaking in January 6, 2021 to make it appear as if he had called

1:29.9

on his supporters to violently storm Capitol Hill when, in fact, he had not.

1:34.5

And they spliced together two clips that he uttered 54 minutes apart.

1:40.0

But I think that you're right, John, the Americans are probably a little confused about why this scandal is so wrenching for Britain, because often our frame of reference is public broadcasting in the U.S.

1:55.4

And it's important to understand that the BBC is a very, very different kind of animal. So public broadcasting in the

2:05.7

U.S. National Public Radio or PBS on TV tends to be relatively small. They are just one channel

2:13.9

or radio station among many in any given market. The programming tends to be a bit niche,

2:20.3

and also, frankly, for all of the controversies about their funding over the years, the amount

2:26.5

of money that they were getting from the taxpayers at $525-ish million a year, a rounding error in the federal budget. So compare that to the BBC,

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