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Magic: The Gathering Drive to Work Podcast

#1005: Blue with Ethan Fleischer

Magic: The Gathering Drive to Work Podcast

Wizards of the Coast

Duels Of The Planeswalkers, Games, Magic The Gathering, Leisure, Game Design, Mtg, Ccg, Mark Rosewater

4.8743 Ratings

🗓️ 3 February 2023

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

This is another in my series where I sit down with representatives of the colors from the Council of Colors. In this podcast, I talk with Ethan Fleischer about blue.

Transcript

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0:00.0

I'm not pulling in my driveway. We all know what that means. It's time for other drive to work at home edition.

0:07.0

So I've been interviewing the representatives of all the different colors. So today we have Blue with Ethan Fleischer.

0:15.0

Hey, Ethan.

0:16.0

Hi, Mark.

0:17.0

So we're going to talk all about blue. So you have the record of being the member with the longest,

0:24.4

representing the same color from the longest amount of time.

0:27.1

That's right.

0:27.7

I've been the blue color pie counselor for as long as the color pie council has existed.

0:34.3

Yes.

0:34.7

Everybody else, every other color has had multiple people,

0:36.9

but you are the, you've been

0:38.3

blue's, you know, watcher the whole time. So I think as we talk blue, hopefully, you've thought

0:44.7

a lot about blue. So it's true. Okay. So first up, let's talk about where, what do you think of

0:51.5

the state of blue right now? Let's start there.

0:58.1

I think that blue is in a really good spot right now.

1:06.1

I think that we've identified some challenges for Blue in the last few years that we've overcome.

1:13.4

But in general, it feels like when I work with the lead designers of various sets, they have a really clear understanding of what blue is supposed to do, what blue is not supposed to do. So it is a

1:20.3

relatively quiet color, and we've only identified a small number of sort of structural issues that need to be solved

1:29.3

with blue. Okay, so A, I want to talk about the challenges we just talked about, and B, we'll

1:33.4

talk about the continuing structural challenges. So what were the challenges the last couple

1:37.4

years with blue? The big challenge of the last few years with Blue has been how our limited environments evolve.

1:47.0

We found that the most fun types of limited environments are ones with strong threats, but also strong answers,

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