Hi, my name is Pete, and I want to welcome you today to the Emotionally Healthy Leader

podcast. Our title, which hopefully I'll stay with by the time this is published, is 10

questions to ask in the crucible of differentiation. Ten questions to ask in the crucible of

differentiation. And actually, what I'm going to do is I've been on this theme of differentiation in a variety of angles the last four or five weeks. And on July 10th at 2 p.n,

I'm going to hold a, you know, a free webinar on Zoom and say questions around the issue of

leadership and differentiation and specifically what that looks like in

different context so you can sign up on our website for it again July 10th at 2 p.m.

it's a Tuesday webinar love to have you there I love getting questions it's a

tremendous source of themes for podcasts I'm actually collecting questions as people send them to you know to my

Twitter or Facebook or to at info at emotionally healthy.org and I've got some great questions

and I will definitely have a couple of podcasts on just you know top questions because

there's no better way to learn than the case study method in real life.

So this theme of the crucible differentiation really comes out of a turning point.

I would say one of the turning points of my own leadership development.

And I ran into it recently.

It happened in 2006, 2007.

And at that point, I've been pastoring, boy, almost 19, 20 years.

And I published a couple of books.

I've been some speaking, you know, and it was time to hire another executive pastor.

And I recognized there was some issues of organizational that we kept coming up against over and over again and really

the implementation of emotionally healthy discipleship on a leadership level. And I really wanted

to hire someone I finally realized to do a number of things I just didn't want to do. And I ended

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