Hi, I'm Katie from WellnessMama.com. Welcome to episode 10 of the WellnessMama Podcast,

where I provide simple answers for healthier families. An interesting fact for your day.

A 2010 study published in the International Journal of Food Microbiology found that 48% of

fountains soda drinks contained fecal bacteria and 11% contained E. coli, just another

on a long list of reasons to avoid drinking soda. On the opposite end of the spec health

spectrum, one cup or approximately 33 calories of Swiss chard provides over 1700% of the

daily value of vitamin K1, and when cooked in some grass-fed butter, is also a great source of vitamin

K2, so skip the soda and load up on the green vegetables. Speaking of calories, today's guest is an

expert in that arena. Jonathan Baylor is the author of the excellent book, The Calorie Myth,

which is also a New York Times bestseller. His research has led him to over 10 years of

collaborating with top scientists. He's analyzed over 1300 studies, right over 10,000 pages of research

in his work, and his work has been recognized by Harvard Medical School, Johns Hopkins, Yale, and UCLA.

Jonathan is a top nutrition and exercise expert, and his specialty is making very complex science,

simple and understandable, and I'm so excited to have him here today. Welcome, Jonathan.

Thanks for joining us. Thank you for having me, Katie. It's a pleasure.

Awesome. I know you've done countless hours of research when it comes to calories, and I would love to hear your take on the dichotomy.

We have this modern fascination with science, and I know when I write blog posts, everybody wants to know

what are the studies? Where's the science? But this seems to be a disconnect when it comes to what we

actually eat. So in other words, with most things in life, we welcome the latest advances in science

from our smartphones to hospital technology and across the board. And we really value science and

celebrate innovation and progress, but we're still following some nutrition advice from the 50s.

So can you explain that? It's heartbreaking. It's very difficult to explain because we line up to get

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