This COVID-19 pandemic is arguably the greatest national and worldwide crisis since World War II.

So, of course, once the coronavirus hit, I've been talking to guests about the various aspects of this horrible scourge.

For instance, Larry Brilliant, an epidemiologist who is part of the team at the World

Health Organization that successfully eradicated smallpox from the face of the earth. Here he

talks about the fallout from CDC's failure to come up with a viable test right at the start.

All of the immune tests that have passed through the CDC, I think but one,

have not been CDC approved. They have been CDC allowed by emergency use declarations or

compassionate use. That means that instead of the FDA approving them, the FDA has accepted a certificate saying,

yes, I've tested my own thing.

So the market has been flooded by immunological tests that are not very good.

And it's a wild west out there.

I've been fascinated with the fine line that doctors Fauci and Burks have had to walk as members of the task force.

I had Lena Wynn as my guest.

You see her on CNN and MSNBC all the time.

Lena is an emergency room physician, professor at GW School of Public Health,

and was the commissioner of public health in Baltimore under two mayors, and the second mayor

was kind of nuts. She's been sentenced to three years in prison for fraud and tax evasion.

Lena has had a parallel experience working for a nutcase, and we talked about that here.

You know, again, I watch these press conferences, and every time I'm thinking,

wow, if I heard this, and I needed him to walk this back, what on earth would I have to do

to get there? Right. I mean, who would I have to talk to to get him to walk this back. What on earth what I have to do to get there?

Right? I mean, who would I have to talk to to get him to back down? What's the messaging

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