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I welcome. Brandon Wykert, his new book is biohacked, China's race to control life.

Yes, this is about COVID-19.

Yes, this is about theft.

Yes, this is about a contest between the United States of America and the People's Republic of China.

It is also about the falling down of many esteemed individuals in our culture and European

culture and Chinese culture because the intention of China moves from curiosity to warfare.

Brandon, a very good evening to you. Thank you very much. At the beginning of your book,

you have a metaphor which I like a great deal.

It's a way of explaining how the People's Republic of China's Chinese Communist Party believed they would win the contest with the United States, though they start from well behind after the century of humiliation.

It's called the Field of Dreams theory.

What does that mean? How were they thinking in Beijing when they came up with that? Good evening.

Well, it's a good evening, John, and thank you for having me. That's a great question because you think of the field of dreams. We think of a very American idea. But in fact,

China's government spent years learning at our feet how to become a superpower and trying to

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