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CBS, I on the world. I'm John Bachelor with Gordon Chang at Gordon Chang. Tic-Toc, much in the news.

The House of Representatives voting to jettison Tic-Tic-Tic-Toc unless and until there is an investor or someone

to come forward who is not associated with the People's Republic of China

or Chinese nationals who might be linked to the People's Republic of China.

Until the sale can be made, and trustworthy as I understand it.

There's much more to this story so Gordon and I are very pleased to welcome

someone who has experience with Tik-Toc and can help explain to us what the

threat is.

I welcome Paul de Barova, a biotech entrepreneur, a national security advisor.

He's in Melbourne, Australia, the state is Victoria.

And the need here we have immediately

is to understand the threat.

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