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This is CBS Eye on the World.

Here's John Batchler.

On the surface of the planet Earth, we're headed to the surface of the moon and the planet Mars.

This is Hotel Mars episode N, Dr. Livingston.

Dr. Spaces with me of the space show.

And we're thrilled to have a pioneer in the colonies to come on the moon and Mars.

This is Jaime Beneroyev, Rutgers University, a professor in mechanical and aerospace engineering,

whose books are revelatory.

And over the years, I've enjoyed them much because it tells us how we can imagine mankind

on the surface of what appears to be two hostile environments.

The first book is Turning Dust into Gold, building a future on the moon and Mars.

The second is building habitats on the moon.

We begin with the moon.

I'm a very good even to you.

Thank you, professor.

There have been developments since we last spoke chiefly SpaceX and Starship, taking

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