It's super interesting in terms of education because both my children are in high school and they are getting pretty much the same education I got 30 years ago and I felt it was reasonably irrelevant then and they sort of do

seriously question it but I kind of love that they question it. The Hello and I'm very excited for you to listen to this episode. It's about design, but it's a bit different than what you might expect from us.

Today's guest is the founder of an architecture and urban design firm. The project she works on today, you may get to see 10 years from now,

which means she spends a lot of time thinking about the future and how to design for it.

In this episode, she and Chris discuss what that future might look like for everyone

and how urban designers and educators play an integral role in shaping it. I really enjoyed listening to this one because it felt like this warm light bulb in the darkness of a new reality we've all been

thrown into and I think you might like it too. So please enjoy our conversation with Hannah Corlette.

For people who are tuning in who have no idea who you are and want to learn about you, can you introduce yourself and tell us what it is that you do?

I certainly can. My name is Hannah

Koolit. My company is HNNA. We were a studio that combines architecture with

urban design and we also combine sort of

research and theory with practice so we have a kind of big theoretical edge as

well as a lot of you know real scale built work and we kind of feed them off each other.

We, there's a, I mean the London scene is such that there's a lot of architecture firms, but there's not that many who do urban design

and those that do a quite big scale so we're the kind of alternative option

shall we say in that we kind of question what everyone else is doing, try and think outside the box and yeah,

or should we say edgier than the norm I like to think, but maybe everyone thinks that about themselves I don't know.

Well they like to think that but maybe it's not real.

So I think a lot of people maybe most everybody that's listening to this can understand what architecture is.

You live in something, you go to something, but the part that is maybe a little bit more mysterious to me is like,

what is urban design?

Yeah, if you imagine the idea of a city, I mean, they don't necessarily organically grow, a lot do,

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