Yeah, so it's like inclusion is like being invited to a party, but belonging is having your music playing at the party. I'm your host Chris Doe and I'm joined

with my amazing and talented producer Greg Gunn. Hey Greg.

Hey Greg! Hey, wow I approve both of those adjectives to describe me and thank you.

And it's true and it's honest and sincere. Oh boy. So what's uh what's going on with

the episode today?

In this episode I talked to Hank Washington who is an art director, designer, and illustrator

based out of Mississippi.

We get into how he went from college graduate attending conferences to speaking at one just a few years later.

We got into how to find your voice when speaking and finally being able to feel at home

in the design world as a person of color.

That sounds really cool and I can't wait to listen to this episode.

Well it was a really great conversation.

I really enjoyed speaking with someone so genuine and just plain happy.

Without further ado, please enjoy this conversation with Hank Washington.

So I want to give our audience a little kind of backup to like what's going on the back story is I'm at

Crete of South in Columbus, Georgia and I'm sitting in the back mining my own business and then all of a sudden you start talking about somebody that I know

I'm like wait a minute. Handel Eugene I was thinking I know Handel. What is going on?

And then you put this thing up on the screen and you're talking about the feature and you're like,

hey Christo, call me and I yelled out back at you, let's make it happen.

I don't know if you knew that.

I yelled right back at you, let's make it happen.

I felt compelled to say that, right? So then there you and I are, kind of two strangers really,

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