Welcome to the Counseling Tutor Podcast.

The must listen to podcast for students of counselling and psychotherapy.

Here are your hosts, Rory Lee's Oaks and Ken Kelly.

Hello and welcome to the counselling tutor podcast with me, Rory Lee's Oaks.

And with me is my fellow anthropological philosopher, Mr Ken Kelly.

Gooden talk, Rory.

And I believe that that is in keeping with the theme of what we might be looking at today.

So great day as we come, I guess, if you're listening to this in real time and not on the catch-up podcasts,

going into the festive season, I guess, if you're listening to this in real time and not on the catch-up podcasts, going into the festive season, I guess. And episode 62, we're going to be opening with

that first contact. And, you know, there's the first contact when we maybe see a client in our

counselling room, but this can extend beyond that. To first contact, maybe we speak to them on

the phone to arrange that first session.

And of course that links into a Facebook comment that we will be bringing to you.

Going into theory with Rory today and we're looking at I and thou, Rory.

Is this where our German theme kind of fits in?

It does. We're going to be talking about the philosophy of Martin Buba, who is in fact

an anthropological, or was an anthropological philosopher. Anthropological philosophy,

the study of phenomenology, metaphysics, and all those things that are very difficult to measure

with a ruler or a weighing machine.

I like it. I like it. So we're going to be looking at that, the I and thou philosophy of dialogue.

And then we're going to be closing today with something else that's a little difficult to measure with a ruler.

And that is our own prejudice and how we can challenge our own prejudice that

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