If I was a mentor, a young person that wanted to get into the fitness industry,

eventually wanted to open up their own gym. My take would not be like, okay,

graduate college, go get your level one, become a trainer. I would become a member at a gym that

you really, really admire and respect. I think there's so much to be gained from that,

not only in terms of best practices, but what could you do for better practices? It's like if you,

I think you have to have you eat now at some restaurants before you open up a restaurant.

We are here because we know the outcomes in our lives are within our control.

That taking absolute ownership of how we eat, sleep, train, think and connect with each other

is how we'll optimize our health and happiness. That chasing excellence is how we grab hold

of what is possible. Our mission is to live on the road. Always chasing. Never stopping.

Hello, Ben. Hey, Patrick. How are you? Great. Good. Today, we're going to talk about

building or navigating a new career or a new business within fitness or within the world of fitness.

Cool. I think we'll stick to the world of, you know, you have your hands and a few different

things within the world of fitness in the broader sense. But I think we'll probably try to keep it to

training people and gyms and that world. Unless you see something applicable to talk about,

you know, things like comp training or whatever else. So I wanted to start with just a sense from you

on what, just a reminder of what your life was like when you started on this journey.

We've definitely talked about it a bit in the past, but I'm curious if you want to just walk us

back a little bit just so we have a good context for what was your life like when you decided to

make training, fitness, CrossFit, sort of the thing that you decided to do?

When I was going through school, I never had the ambition of becoming a trainer, becoming a gym

owner or coach or anything of the like. My future laid in the path that my dad had kind of followed,

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