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collectivo.com. This is Joe Wong. Welcome to the Traffset, where each week we explore the lives of drummers.

I want to play something for you. You're hearing Surrender by Cheap Trick, featuring my guest Bunny Carlos on drums.

Formed in Rockford, Illinois in 1973, Cheap Trick began as a hardworking regional band,

relentlessly touring the Midwest Club Circuit.

The band signed to Epic Records in 1976, but their early recordings were initially met with relative indifference by U.S. audiences.

That changed thanks to their Triple Platinum live album, Cheap Trick at Budacom.

Cheap Trick has influenced countless bands, and Bunny's driving and hook-laden drumming is fundamental to their success.

A perfect pop drummer, he always plays just enough, never too much, never too little. And he makes his distinctive

presence felt while always serving the song. In 2010, Bunny had a falling out with the other members

of Cheap Trick that resulted in a lawsuit and ultimately a settlement. Although he still owns a membership stake in the band,

he's no longer their active drummer.

But he has found other creative outlets,

such as the supergroups, tinted windows, and candy gold.

He's also an avid drum collector.

I interviewed him at his home in Rockford, Illinois,

surrounded by his impressive collection of Ludwig drums.

And now our interview with Bunny Carlos. You know, when I heard the twist,

in 1962 or three, my brother had a single of it.

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