The following is an archived podcast presented by the Branson and Hudson Foundation for Podcast Recovery.

This podcast is entitled, Vice Presents, New Movements.

This is the first and only episode of the podcast.

Welcome to episode one.

Carl's Man. Charles Manson, David Koresh, Jim Jones, Steve Jobs, R. Kelly, names that go beyond the person and into infamy, even noriety.

What is about the captivating charisma of those who start through own movements?

Does our curiosity stem from simple intrigue, apprehension, or even a secret desire to be part of something more than ourselves?

My name is Shit Thomas, reporting for Vice.

And today, I'm going to hopefully be finding answers these

questions this is new movements a show created to better understand the underlying ethos of

some of the role lessor known groups consortiums and religions I'm sitting here in an

acacia gazebo in the desert.

Nothing around but a single weird radio station a few miles away.

And sitting with me today on the show, I have John Paul of the Beatles in Uncle Burger.

Hey, how you doing?

How are you?

Thank you for having us.

Thank you for coming on.

We're so excited to start this show out, new movements uncovering the world of cults.

Now, I know that sounds like a strange title to some of you, maybe even you guys, but we'll get that to...

We'll get to that in a second.

First of all, I want to get

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