Welcome to episode 36 of FBI Retired Case File Review with Jerry Williams.

I'm a retired agent writing crime fiction inspired by actual FBI cases. In this episode we get to speak to

Vince McNally. Now Vince was with the FBI for 31 years. He was first hired as a clerical employee, and two years later received an appointment

to the special agent position.

During his agent career, he conducted and led investigations in general criminal violations, espionage, terrorism,

white-collar crime, organized crime, and drug violations.

He later became an instructor in crisis hostage negotiations and a program manager for the

FBI's critical incident stress management teams at the FBI Academy in Quantico, Virginia.

In this episode, Vince tells us all about a hostage negotiation case involving a workplace violent situation in Honolulu, Hawaii.

Vince retired from the FBI after serving as unit chief of the employee

assistance unit at FBI Headquarters. Currently, Vince serves on the board of scientific

and professional advisors of the American Academy of Experts in Traumatic Stress with the National

Center of Crisis Management.

He is a compassion fatigue specialist, board certified in acute traumatic stress management,

and board certified in emergency crisis response.

He is also a certified employee assistance professional.

After we talk about the Honolulu hostage case, Vince and I have an open and honest

conversation about the stress and trauma experience by law enforcement

personnel and how that affects their home life and their work.

The most important part of our conversation involves the increased rate of suicide among law enforcement personnel.

Vince talks all around the country about these issues.

He can be reached via his linked in profile where he often post articles on critical

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