Welcome to the Pure Desire podcast, where we partner with you to bring hope and freedom on your journey to purity.

Hey there, I'm your host, Trevor Windsor, and we're so thankful you're taking time out of your day to hang out with us.

I'm here, as always, with my co-host, Nick St.umbo.

Hey, just want to give a shout out to some new friends we met from St. Paul, Minnesota, at a recent Pure Desire University.

It was the first time we've had a picture taken because of fans of the podcast that felt like they knew us.

And it was really awesome. So you know who you are.

Apparently we are podcast famous. That's great. That's right. Well, I love because it's kind of the

goal of the podcast is to create a sense of community and that people aren't alone and that they're

a part of this. And that was just cool to hear from a couple of guys like we feel like we know you even though this is

the first time we've met and hopefully there's a lot more of you out there that this is a place

of community for you and just be careful that when you come up to us and you say hey i know about

your life that sounds creepy unless you give us some context we'll get used to it though

there you go give us some time and joining us today are anna phon and Ashley Jamison. We have Anna and Ashley

with us really to discuss our groups known as the Eight Pillars to Freedom. So both Anna

and Ashley have been in and have led these groups. So we're going to push into their experience

and expertise as we really unpack these groups and the resources that we offer. So Anna, Ashley,

thanks for hanging out with us today. Thanks for having me. It's really good to be here.

All right, guys. Let's start with this. Who is the eight pillars group and material for?

So the eight pillars group is really for women who feel like they have a struggle with love or a sex addiction.

So it could be displayed in a number of ways,

just like it would in like the Seven Pillars group, but this one is specifically geared towards

women. So to ask a follow-up question on that, you know, some of the women that are listening

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