Welcome to the Counseling Tutor Podcast.

The must listen to podcast for students of counselling and psychotherapy.

Here are your hosts, Rory Lee's Oaks and Ken Kelly.

Hello and welcome to episode 30 of the counseling tutor podcast with me, Rory Lee's Oaks. And with me, connected by two tin cans and a piece of string, is Mr. Ken Kelly. How you doing, Ken? Not bad at all, Rory. It is really good to see you today, excited about the episode that we have to bring. Love the analogy of the two tin cans and piece of string, because I guess that's

how it all started, wasn't it communicating over a distance? We did it as kids, and we're doing

the same now, except over maybe an electronic piece of string called the internet. And I suppose

if you're listening to this, chances are you listening over that very same piece of string,

the internet. So what can you expect in episode 30 of the counselling tutor podcast?

We're going to start off by having a chat about the different awarding bodies here in the United Kingdom.

We're then going on to theory with Rory, where we're going to be hearing about Bruce Tuckman,

which is going to link into your personal development group. So definitely some

interesting theory that you're going to be sharing there with us, Rory. And then we're going to be

looking at the difference between self-actualization and the actualizing tendency. And I know

that there's been some confusion in the counselling tutor Facebook group asking this question.

So we thought we might like to

shine the light and illuminate that subject today and of course if you want to follow us on

Facebook and join in that conversation come and join thousands and thousands of like-minded learners

throughout the world studying counseling and psychotherapy just go to Facebook and type in

counselling tutor and that's us come and knock on the door we will let you, we'll warmly welcome you in, won't we, Rory? We will. Bring your own tea, is what we say. Just bring your own tea. So let's kick off awarding bodies. Oh, now this is a contentious, Is that a good word for this issue? I know there's so

much talk about this. Oh, it's just, it's, we're talking in the UK. I think, I think what we

have to do is we have to presay this by saying it's, it's in the United Kingdom. But perennially,

students are always, are always asking and rightly so you know which which qualifications get me

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