Long time to the skin, where I ask what's beneath the surface of people we admire,

the ideas that define our time of the history that we're told.

This show is sponsored by me and my rebirth tour.

The next couple of shows are sold out, but there are some tickets available for

Northampton, 6th of July, Grimmsbury, 10th of July,

Regent's Park London, 30th of July.

Now it's time for Under the Skin.

You are listening to Under the Skin with Russell Brand, our radio,

Pockwoods, not really radio, it's broadcast on the internet,

but it's the show where we get under the skin of political issues of the day,

anthropology. And in some cases, consciousness itself, consciousness is not just one more

phenomena, but the seat of all phenomena I've heard it said.

My guest today is Sharon Salzberg.

Sharon is a bestselling author and teacher of Buddhist meditation practices in 1974.

She co-founded the Insight Meditation Society and has been leading meditation retreats

around the world for over three decades. Her books include Real Love,

the Art of Mindful Connection, and Real Happiness, the power of meditation,

which was on the New York Times bestseller list.

She's been honored by the New York Open Center for her outstanding contribution

to the mindfulness of the West. Thank you for coming on our show, Sharon.

No, well, thank you for having me.

When something happens on your journey here, where the taxi is late,

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