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Hello and welcome to our national conversation about conversations about race, the bi-weekly multiracial

podcast where we discuss the ways we can't talk, don't talk, would rather not talk, but intermittently,

fitfully, embarrassingly do talk about culture, identity, politics, power, and privilege in our pre-post,

yet still very racial America.

You could say all that, or you could just call us about race.

I'm Tanner Colby, and joining me here in the Panoply Studios in New York is my regular

co-discussant, Raquel Cepeda.

Hello, Raquel.

Hello, Raquel.

I thought you were going to call me the Dominicana in chief.

No, AC wrote that in the script.

Okay, okay. You don't care.

I'm not that important.

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