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Hi I'm Dr. Margaret and welcome to episode 9 of self-work. I'm so glad you've joined me.

I'm a clinical psychologist and I've been in private practice in Fable, Arkansas for over 20 years,

but I've just begun podcasting. I'm really excited to be here and so glad you've

tuned in to this episode. Today we're going to be talking about shame and what is shame? It's a belief that you are flawed and of course we

are all flawed but that kind of belief leads you to the idea that you don't

have any worth or value that you don't deserve connection with others.

It's extremely destructive.

So today we're going to be talking about it.

We'll talk about the difference between shame and guilt, the sources of shame.

I'm going to talk to you a little bit about my own story, my own journey with shame.

And how what one supervisor said to me years ago turned around my whole thinking about

the usefulness of shame.

And last, I'm going to be reading a question from a listener who wants to know something about the use

of antidepressants, when they're called for and when other things or other techniques for healing

might be more helpful. So let's talk a little about the difference between shame and guilt.

Those words are really used interchangeably often by many,

but they're very, very different.

Guilt is a feeling that you have toward others.

You feel guilty for hurting someone.

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