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The Press Box

The Press Box

The Ringer

Sports

4.43.1K Ratings

Overview

The Ringer’s Bryan Curtis, David Shoemaker and Joel Anderson catch you up on the biggest media stories, from sports to politics and everything in between.

1215 Episodes

Bob Costas Remembers ... the Great NFL Pregame Wars

Hello, media consumers! Bryan is joined today by broadcasting legend Bob Costas to discuss the great NFL pregame wars of the 1980s and 1990s. They dive into everything, starting with him becoming the host of NBC’s pregame show in 1984. Next, they discuss Bob’s competition before turning to what made NBC’s show special (07:42). They continue by going through Bob’s pregame costars and his memories from working with them (26:042). Lastly, the show wraps up with Bob explaining why he stepped back from the pregame desk (43:36). All that and so much more, here on The Press Box. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 26 November 2025

New News About Nuzzi, and Mamdani Goes to Washington. Plus: Susan Orlean on Breaking Into The New Yorker, Working for Tina Brown, and More.

Hello, media consumers! Bryan and David discuss Bryan’s newest Texas barbecue adventure before diving into the most recent news in the ever-evolving Olivia Nuzzi saga, including their thoughts on Ryan Lizza’s second Substack piece and whether this story has reached the point of “feeling like you know too much” (09:49). Next, the guys dive into everything that came out of the meeting between Zohran Mamdani and President Trump in the Oval Office (24:11). Lastly, the show ends with today’s Notebook Dump, where journalist and author Susan Orlean joins the show to discuss her start at The New Yorker, working for Tina Brown, and much more (36:03). Plus, an Only in Journalism first, and David Shoemaker Guesses the Strained-Pun Headline! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 25 November 2025

Trump’s “Piggy” Attack, MLB’s TV Deal, and Joel’s Nuzzi Take. Plus: Mamdani Advisor Zara Rahim

Hello, media consumers! Bryan and Joel discuss President Trump's recent interactions with the media, including his “piggy” comment, his meeting in the Oval Office with Mohammed bin Salman, and his comments on the death of journalist Jamal Khashoggi. Next, the guys parse through MLB’s new media rights deal with NBC, ESPN, and Netflix (18:32). Later, Brian and Joel examine Netflix’s newly released broadcast lineup for their Christmas Day NFL games (24:16), before Joel gives his take on the whole Olivia Nuzzi situation (27:24). The show ends with the next installment of 25 for 25 as Zara Rahim joins to talk about the strategy behind Zohran Mamdani’s successful mayoral campaign, her relationship with Mamdani, and changes in democratic messaging over time (37:11). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 21 November 2025

Olivia Nuzzi, Ryan Lizza, and the Frenzied Rollout of 'American Canto'

Hello, media consumers! Bryan and David dive into everything Olivia Nuzzi, starting with Jacob Bernstein’s New York Times piece, including what was said in his profile of Nuzzi and whether this is the right kind of profile for her. Next, they discuss the excerpt of Nuzzi’s book, 'American Canto,' released in Vanity Fair and whether the writing in this excerpt is “good” (25:44). Afterward, Bryan and David react to the bombshell claim by Ryan Lizza (Nuzzi’s ex- fiancé) that RFK Jr. isn't the only presidential candidate she has had a relationship with (40:40). Lastly, the show ends with the guys giving their thoughts on Marjorie Taylor Greene’s about-face on Trump (59:46). Plus, the Overworked Twitter Joke of the Week, and David Shoemaker Guesses the Strained-Pun Headline! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 19 November 2025

The New Epstein Emails, Pat McAfee and Donald Trump, and the Nico Harrison 'Now They Tell Us.' Plus: NBC’s Cris Collinsworth.

Hello, media consumers! Bryan and Joel discuss what is in the newly released Jeffrey Epstein emails, how this information paints journalism, and the Michael Wolff of it all. Next, Bryan and Joel analyze President Trump’s appearance on The Pat McAfee Show, including how the show received him, the topics they covered, and how this interview reflects on the modern ESPN content ecosystem (17:02). Then, Bryan and Joel dive into Nico Harrison’s inevitable firing by the Dallas Mavericks (34:14). The show ends with the next installment of 25 for 25 as Cris Collinsworth joins to talk about the differences between Al Michaels and Mike Tirico, owning Pro Football Focus, and his time in talk radio. (47:48). Plus, Joel brings us to J School! Hosts: Bryan Curtis and Joel Anderson Guest: Cris Collinsworth Producer: Bruce Baldwin Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 14 November 2025

MSNBC’s Rebrand, ESPN’s Solitaire Scandal, and James Talarico’s Friends. Plus: The Atlantic’s Charlie Warzel

Hello, media consumers! Bryan and David discuss Texas Senate hopeful James Talarico’s social media scandal and how the public reaction to this type of news has changed over time. Next, Bryan and David dive into MSNBC’s rebrand as MSNOW and how effective the rebrand rollout has been (10:18). Then, Bryan and David talk about the ESPN Solitaire debacle (13:53) before discussing the layoffs at Conde Nast following a confrontation with the company’s head of human resources (20:04). Lastly, the show ends with the next installment of 25 for 25, as the Atlantic’s Charlie Warzel joins to talk about Elon Musk, public media trust, and his new podcast, Galaxy Brain (32:54). Plus, the Overworked Twitter Joke of the Week, and David Shoemaker Guesses the Strained-Pun Headline! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 11 November 2025

The Democrats’ Big Night and ESPN’s New Bookie. Plus: Booger McFarland on Alabama-LSU, Playing Dirty, and More.

Hello, media consumers! Bryan and Joel discuss everything coming out of election night, including how the big news stations covered it, where Steve Kornacki has gone, how conservatives are coping, and the New York Post’s Mamdani headline. Next, Bryan and Joel dive into ESPN and DraftKings’ new partnership and ESPN Bet being no more (21:47), before talking about Drew Brees returning to the announcer booth (25:25) and Teen Vogue going by the wayside (32:52). The shows ends with the next installment of 25 for 25 as Booger McFarland joins to talk about Alabama-LSU, playing dirty, and the departure of head coach Brian Kelly (46:06). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 6 November 2025

Last-Minute Election Stories, Trump Goes on ‘60 Minutes,’ and (Another) White House Reporter Caper

Hello, media consumers! Bryan and a returning David discuss Dick Cheney’s death by reviewing his relationship to the press (12:20), before diving into last-minute election stories covering the final days of Zohran Mamdani’s campaign, California's Prop 50, and a fake Bill de Blasio (33:10). Next, Bryan and David talk about everything that came out of Trump’s newest interview with CBS’s ‘60 Minutes,’ what CBS chose to air, and the Bari Weiss of it all (42:24). Lastly, Bryan and David dive through some NFL audio and share their thoughts on the return of a certain football podcast (1:00:02). Plus, the Overworked Twitter Joke of the Week, and David Shoemaker Guesses the Strained-Pun Headline! Hosts: Bryan Curtis and David Shoemaker Producer: Bruce Baldwin Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 4 November 2025

CBS’s Halloween "Bloodbath" and Michael Jordan as the NBA's Ombudsman. Plus: Vox’s Astead Herndon on Leaving The New York Times and the Future of the Democrats.

Hello, media consumers! Bryan and Joel discuss the layoffs at CBS News (0:51) before diving into their thoughts on Michael Jordan’s two appearances on NBC thus far (14:05), the NBA's relationship to storytelling, and what they want from these MJ appearances. Next, Bryan and Joel educate the listeners on Jennifer Welch (28:41), including where she originally grabbed the spotlight, what she does, and where she fits in the modern political media ecosystem. They end the show with the next installment of 25 for 25 as Vox’s Astead Herndon joins to talk about leaving The New York Times and the future of the Democrats (47:13). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 31 October 2025

ESPN’s Gamble, CBS and John Dickerson, and Graham Platner’s Reddit Posts

Hello, media consumers! Bryan is joined by Joel out of the bullpen to dig through everything that has come out of the NBA’s gambling scandal (0:40) before they share their thoughts on how ESPN handled the coverage of that news, who at the worldwide leader should be covering these stories, which former ESPN employees would have covered this in the past, and more. Next, Bryan and Joel discuss John Dickerson leaving ‘CBS Evening News’ and what names have been reported to replace him (24:46). Finally, Bryan and Joel break down all the news surrounding Maine Senate candidate Graham Platner (40:55). Plus, the Overworked Twitter Joke of the Week, and Joel Anderson Guesses the Strained-Pun Headline! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 29 October 2025

How Zohran Mamdani Won the Hearts and Minds of the Media (and New York City)

Bryan and Joel are together in the studio to discuss Zohran Mamdani in the 17th edition of their 25 for 25 series (2:00). They discuss Mamdani as a political phenomenon (6:12), a media phenomenon (21:03), and someone who is signaling generation change (25:55). Later they welcome Eric Lach of The New Yorker, who profiled Mamdani for the magazine. Lach discusses what he learned from Mamdani after speaking with him (34:22). Hosts: Bryan Curtis and Joel Anderson Guest: Eric Lach Producer: Brian H. Waters Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 23 October 2025

An NBA TV Mega-Preview, Good News About The Washington Post, and Your Favorite NFL Clichés

An NBA TV Mega-Preview, Good News About The Washington Post, and Your Favorite NFL Clichés Hello, media consumers! Bryan and David are back to discuss the worst response issued by the White House to a reporter's question, some good news about The Washington Post, and issues at Indiana University’s student newspaper (00:35). The two then dig into their NBA mega-preview! They talk about the return of ‘NBA on NBC Sports,’ including Mike Tirico's return to calling NBA games and the network's new broadcast format, "On the Bench," (20:00). They also get into why it’s exciting that Dirk Nowitzki is making his debut as an analyst with Amazon and that Ian Eagle finally became a no. 1 play-by-play announcer (25:34). To wrap the preview, Bryan and David wonder how ‘Inside the NBA’ will translate to ESPN and whether the network can finally develop a no. 1 announce team (31:44). They then dig into the Overworked Twitter Joke of the Week before diving into some favorite NFL clichés (35:45). The two close with David's guess for this week’s Strained-Pun Headline. Hosts: Bryan Curtis and David Shoemaker Producer: Kyle Williams Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 21 October 2025

Zohran Mamdani Goes on Fox News, the Great Pentagon Walkout, and Awkward NFL Coach Audio

Hello, media consumers! Bryan and Joel discuss the almost entirely unanimous media walkout at the Pentagon after new rules and guidelines were presented to reporters (0:48); Olivia Nuzzi's return, which will now include a book deal (19:52); and Zohran Mamdani's interview with Fox News' Martha MacCallum (26:22). Then they discuss some awkward NFL head coach audio (0:00), before beginning a list of football clichés (40:00) and closing the show with J-School (52:03). Hosts: Bryan Curtis and Joel AndersonProducer: Kyle Crichton Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 16 October 2025

Bari Weiss’s Memo, Marc Maron’s Goodbye, and College Football’s Most Interesting Coach

Hello, media consumers! Bryan and David are back to discuss Bari Weiss’s memo to her new employees and whether it is threatening. Then they talk about Marc Maron’s farewell podcast with Barack Obama. The two discuss Obama’s social media reluctance and why he isn’t he speaking out more (00:21). They also play the football audio of the week: Indiana coach Curt Cignetti as a Dan Jenkins character, Kurt Warner’s disbelief about the Broncos-Jets game, Adam Amin’s indulgence in Only in Journalism, and Tua Tagovailoa throwing his team under the bus (18:00). Next, they get into the worst questions asked at the White House, the Overworked Twitter Joke of the Week, and the latest edition of They’re Running: JB Pritzker edition (36:48). To wrap, they get into the latest on Pentagon press access, a Media Piss Test, and David Shoemaker Guesses the Strained-Pun Headline (44:53). Hosts: Bryan Curtis and David Shoemaker Producer: Kyle Williams Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 13 October 2025

Jen Psaki on the Democrats and the Future of MSNBC. Plus, Paul Finebaum vs. ESPN and the End of LeBron’s Media Headlock

Hello, media consumers! Bryan and Joel cover LeBron’s “big” news, Paul Finebaum a week after his OutKick interview, yet another Bill Belichick story out of UNC, and a bizarre Katie Porter interview (0:45). Then Joel and Bryan talk with MSNBC's Jen Psaki about the Democratic Party, how politicians can effectively communicate their message, modernizing White House press briefings, the future of cable news, and more (44:18). Finally they close the show with some J-School (1:15:16).Hosts: Bryan Curtis and Joel AndersonGuest: Jen PsakiProducers: Kyle Crichton and Brian Waters Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 9 October 2025

Bari Weiss’s First Day at CBS, Reporting on Mark Sanchez, and the GOAT-dom of Chris Berman

Hello, media consumers! Bryan and David are back to discuss America’s Softest Target, why they’re sitting out of Taylor Swift discourse, and Bari Weis’ first day as editor in chief of CBS News. They get into the particulars of who Weiss is reporting to, what will her version of CBS News look like, and what it means that just 28% of Americans have a fair amount of trust in newspapers, television and radio. Then they get into the Overworked Twitter Joke of the Week, and the reporting around Mark Sanchez’s arrest this weekend, They also share some football audio from this weekend, including Eric Collins’ first football game, and Greg Olson using an “only in journalism” phrase.  Hosts: Bryan Curtis and David Shoemaker  Producer: Kyle Williams Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 6 October 2025

The Ezra Klein and Ta-Nehisi Coates Showdown, Floating Paul Finebaum for Senate, and the Meaning of Kamala’s Book Sales

Hello, media consumers! Bryan and Joel take a deep dive into the spirited discussion between Ezra Klein and Ta-Nehisi Coates centered on their disagreements about Charlie Kirk and some of his eulogists (1:27). Then they discuss the unexpected news that ESPN's Paul Finebaum is considering running as a Republican senator for Alabama, the numbers for Kamala Harris's book, WaPo's new opinion section, and more (33:21). Hosts: Bryan Curtis and Joel AndersonProducer: Kyle Crichton Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 2 October 2025

A 25 for 25 Double Feature: Dean Jelani Cobb on the Future of J-School. Plus, Spencer Hall on “Weird Internet.”

Hello, media consumers! Bryan and Joel preview today’s double-feature episode (0:45), before Joel is joined by Columbia Journalism School dean Jelani Cobb to discuss the future of journalism education (7:44). Then, Bryan and Joel have a quick interview postgame (47:42) before introducing Joel’s conversation with writer Spencer Hall on how his remarkable career has intersected with the “weird internet” (59:07). Hosts: Bryan Curtis and Joel AndersonGuests: Jelani Cobb and Spencer HallProducer: Kyle Crichton Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 1 October 2025

A Report From the Cowboys-Packers Tie, the Rise of the Bernie Bio, and Barbecue Notes From Texas

Hello, media consumers! Bryan and David are back to discuss Bryan’s quick trip to Dallas for the Micah Parsons return game. He lets you in on the dirty secret of football reporting, gets into the differences between the Micah trade and the Luka Doncic trade, and gives some barbecue reviews (00:24). Then they share some football audio from the weekend, including Gus Johnson’s call of an Illinois running back fumbling just as he was about to reach the end zone and a sideline interview gone wrong with Bears coach Ben Johnson (11:10). The two also get into the Overworked Twitter Joke of the Week, Bernie Sanders entering biography status, and Leonardo DiCaprio going viral over what his manager wanted his name changed to (33:05). Hosts: Bryan Curtis and David ShoemakerProducer: Kyle Williams Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 29 September 2025

Jimmy Kimmel’s Return, the Fox-Barstool College Football Experiment, and Kamala’s Book Tour. Plus: Noah Eagle.

Hello, media consumers! Bryan and Joel discuss the return of 'Jimmy Kimmel Live!' on Tuesday night (0:46) before reexamining the Fox-Barstool college football experiment and Kamala Harris's book tour (25:50). Finally, they are joined by NBC's Noah Eagle to discuss the highly anticipated Oregon–Penn State matchup this Saturday, capturing wacky finishes in the broadcast booth, his play-by-play strategy as the game of football evolves, and broadcasters in suits vs. quarter zips (49:30). Then Joel conducts a hard-hitting Lightning Round (1:08:20). Hosts: Bryan Curtis and Joel Anderson Guest: Noah Eagle Producer: Kyle Crichton Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 25 September 2025

Fear After the Jimmy Kimmel Suspension, the Return of Olivia Nuzzi, and Presidential Campaign of Andy Beshear

Hello, media consumers! Bryan and David discuss Vanity Fair hiring Olivia Nuzzi after she parted ways with New York magazine last year, continue untangling the Jimmy Kimmel situation, discuss the new rules for covering the Pentagon, and more (00:26). Then they share some football audio from the weekend, including Joe Davis’s call of Eagles defensive tackle Jordan Davis’s touchdown, Gus Johnson’s ultra-specific statistic during the Auburn-Oklahoma game, and Tulsa coach Tre Lamb's comments after his team dismantled Oklahoma State (31:27). In the notebook, the two discuss Kentucky Governor Andy Beshear's Presidential campaign (40:59). Hosts: Bryan Curtis and David ShoemakerProducer: Kyle Williams Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 22 September 2025

Jimmy Kimmel Is Suspended, Molly Qerim Leaves ESPN, and Ivan Maisel on the Cult of the College Football Coach

Hello, media consumers! Bryan and Joel discuss ABC's decision to indefinitely suspend 'Jimmy Kimmel Live!' (0:46), why The Washington Post fired columnist Karen Attiah, Molly Qerim's abrupt departure from ESPN, Tom Brady's glaring conflict of interest, and more (38:32). Then Bryan is joined by sports journalist and author Ivan Maisel to discuss his new book, 'American Coach: The Triumph and Tragedy of Notre Dame Legend Frank Leahy' (59:22). Hosts: Bryan Curtis and Joel AndersonGuest: Ivan MaiselProducer: Kyle Crichton Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 18 September 2025

Our Broken Media Ecosystem, Replay Reviews for Everyone, and Lachlan Cartwright of Breaker

Hello, media consumers! Bryan and David examine the ways in which information about Charlie Kirk's killing has come out to the public (0:20), before they share some audio from the weekend in football, including Pat McAfee's rousing 'College GameDay' monologue, some instant replay insight from Clemson–Georgia Tech, the tush push getting on everyone's nerves again, and more (14:17). Finally, Bryan and David are joined by the founder of Breaker, Lachlan Cartwright, to discuss a slew of media topics, including Puck's expected acquisition of Air Mail, concerns from people at CBS News about Bari Weiss's new role, Lachlan Murdoch retaining control of Fox and News Corp, and more (30:25). Plus, the Overworked Twitter Joke of the Week, and David Shoemaker Guesses the Strained-Pun Headline! Hosts: Bryan Curtis and David Shoemaker Guest: Lachlan Cartwright Producer: Kyle Crichton Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 15 September 2025

The Killing of Charlie Kirk, the Murdochs’ Real-Life Succession, and Three More Years of ‘Pardon the Interruption’

Bryan and Joel discuss the whirlwind of coverage around the killing of Charlie Kirk (1:13) before they give updates on the Trump vs. The Wall Street Journal saga (23:32), the extension for ESPN's 'Pardon the Interruption' (29:59), Rupert Murdoch's succession plan  (38:54), the reporter caught in the middle of the college football AP poll outrage (44:50), and Adam Silver's puzzling comments about NBA viewers (53:52). Hosts: Bryan Curtis and Joel AndersonProducer: Kyle Crichton Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 11 September 2025

NFL Opening Weekend Audio, the CBS News Blues, and Our Review of ‘The Paper’

Hello, media consumers! Bryan and David discuss news from CBS News, including more issues with edited interviews and Bari Weiss’s reported arrival (0:20). Then, they get into a tense moment on ‘Get Up!’ between Ryan Clark and Peter Schrager, some audio from NFL Week 1, J.J. Watt’s broadcast debut, and more (12:28). They also share their thoughts on the new Peacock series ‘The Paper’, a puzzling news story about the Treasury Secretary, and more (37:33). Plus, the Overworked Twitter Joke of the Week, and David Shoemaker Guesses the Strained-Pun Headline! Hosts: Bryan Curtis and David ShoemakerProducer: Kyle Crichton Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 8 September 2025

Eagles-Cowboys Audio and the Hock Heard Round the World. Plus, a New 25 for '25 With ESPN’s Domonique Foxworth.

Hello media consumers! Joel and Bryan discuss some of their many takeaways from the Eagles-Cowboys NFL opener (5:35), and a NFL TV preview covering Mike Tirico's first Super Bowl, the RedZone ad crisis, Tom Brady's second year at FOX, and J.J. Watt moving to the CBS booth (22:44). Then in a new edition of 25 for '25, Joel talks with Domonique Foxworth about the future of player media! They discuss Domonique's career path from player to sports business to sports media, the changing relationship with current players and journalists/media members, the "nerdification" of football coverage, what he has learned about debate shows, and more (40:18). Finally, Bryan and Joel close the show by reconnecting for a brief interview postgame (1:35:37). Hosts: Bryan Curtis and Joel AndersonProducer: Kyle Crichton Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 5 September 2025

The Cloudy Future of 'Inside the NBA,' Gavin Newsom Could Run for President Like Marshawn Lynch, and More Tortured Acronyms

Hello, media consumers! Bryan and David share some notes from Lee Corso's emotional 'College GameDay' sign-off and a new edition of "Manning face" (0:20), before they react to some sounds from the weekend in college football, including Florida State's upset win over Alabama and Bill Belichick and UNC's blowout loss to TCU. They also get into Charles Barkley's important questions about 'Inside the NBA' on ESPN, Cam Newton vs. Stephen A. and introduce a new segment that aims to follow the many Democrats who could run for president in 2028 (7:40). Finally, they discuss Jerry Jones's decision to trade Micah Parsons away from the Dallas Cowboys before seemingly forgetting his name, a final Cracker Barrel update, a Media Piss Test, and some more tortured acronym nominations (32:15). Plus, the Overworked Twitter Joke of the Week and David Shoemaker Guesses the Strained-Pun Headline! Hosts: Bryan Curtis and David Shoemaker Producer: Kyle Crichton Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 3 September 2025

Doris Burke's Demotion, a Massive College Football TV Preview, and Adam Friedland's Star Turn

Hello, media consumers! Bryan and Joel begin today’s show with J-School, talking about Cam Newton’s new expanded role at ESPN and some criticisms of the Cowboys documentary. Then they dive into the headlines, discussing Doris Burke’s demotion at ESPN (13:58), a mega college football TV preview (21:51), and much more.Hosts: Bryan Curtis and Joel AndersonProducer: Isaiah Blakely Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 28 August 2025

Ohio State and Barstool, the Great Film Critic Shortage, and the MS NOW Acronym Challenge. Plus: Michael M. Grynbaum on the Past and Future of Condé Nast.

Hello, media consumers! Bryan and David open up the show by talking about Rich Eisen’s return to the 'SportsCenter' desk. Then they discuss a report that Dave Portnoy was banned from Ohio Stadium (6:17) and talk about the state of local film critics (16:50). They also check in on their MS NOW challenge (31:28) and run through the Overworked Twitter Joke of the Week before Bryan is joined by Michael M. Grynbaum of The New York Times. They discuss his new book: 'Empire of the Elite: Inside Condé Nast, the Media Dynasty That Reshaped America.' They talk about the history and future of Condé Nast, the company that owns Vogue, Vanity Fair, and The New Yorker (45:54). Finally, David guesses the Strained Pun Headline of the Week (1:18:57)!Hosts: Bryan Cutis and David ShoemakerGuest: Michael M. GrynbaumProducer: Isaiah Blakely Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 26 August 2025

The Legend of Lee Corso, the Man Who Created "GameDay," with ESPN's Kirk Herbstreit

Hello, media consumers! Ahead of Lee Corso's final appearance on College Gameday, Bryan and Joel briefly talk about the history of College Gameday and what has made Corso such a special figure for almost 40 years. Then, Bryan is joined by Kirk Herbstreit to talk about how he got on College Gameday, what his relationship with Corso has been like over the years, and so much more (9:44). Later, Bryan and Joel wrap up with some more thoughts on what Herbstreit said, and they talk about how Gameday became the show we know it as today. Hosts: Bryan Curtis and Joel AndersonGuest: Kirk HerbstreitProducers: Isaiah Blakely and Kyle Crichton Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 25 August 2025

The Dallas Cowboys, the Netflix Doc, and Jerry Jones With Ed Werder

Hello, media consumers! Bryan and Joel start this Dallas Cowboys–centric show with their thoughts on Netflix’s ‘America’s Team’ documentary. They reminisce about the ’90s era of football and the media landscape then, discuss people’s affection for the Cowboys, and talk about why the documentary works. Next, Bryan and Joel welcome longtime reporter Ed Werder to discuss what it was like covering the Cowboys in the ’90s. They talk about how competitive the Cowboys beat was, how Jerry thought about reporters, and Werder's most memorable moment with Charles Haley (23:30). Finally, Bryan and Joel close the show with their reporting war stories about Michael Irvin and Emmitt Smith (1:08:33). Hosts: Bryan Curtis and Joel Anderson Guest: Ed Werder Producer: Kyle Williams Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 21 August 2025

The Cringey MSNBC Rebrand, Gavin Newsom’s Twitter Account, and the Death of the Longform Podcast

Hello, media consumers! Bryan and David discuss the end of summer and showing pop culture treasures from their youth to their children. Then they tackle the headlines, starting with the MSNBC rebrand (8:30), before talking about a Rolling Stone article about the death of the narrative podcast (26:28). Then in the notebook dump, they talk about what’s been going on with Gavin Newsom’s Twitter account (40:20), the UFC deal (46:49), sheep puns, and David guesses the strained pun headline of the week. Hosts: Bryan Curtis and David ShoemakerProducer: Isaiah BlakelyAdditional Music: Epidemic Sound, Anna Landström, Anna Dager, and Hanna Ekström Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 19 August 2025

The Travis Kelce-Taylor Swift Show, Jimmy Pitaro’s ESPN, and the Worst Question Asked at the White House

Hello media consumers! It’s a Monday show on a Thursday! Bryan fills David in on his Connecticut hotdog tour earlier this week (0:16), before discussing Taylor Swift’s appearance on Travis and Jason Kelce’s ‘New Heights’ podcast, and a few thoughts on Monday’s Jimmy Pitaro interview (11:23). Then they run through the Overworked Twitter Joke of the Week, two new entries of Worst Question Ever Asked at the White House, rumors of Howard Stern and SirusXM parting ways, Oklahoma selling ‘postgame media access’ to fans, and loads more (38:20)! Hosts: Bryan Curtis and David Shoemaker Producer: Kyle Crichton  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 14 August 2025

25 for 25: Jimmy Pitaro on ESPN's NFL and WWE Deals, Pat McAfee, and the State of the Company in 2025

Hello, media consumers! Bryan heads to the ESPN HQ in Bristol, Connecticut, to sit down with ESPN's chairman, Jimmy Pitaro. They discuss the highly anticipated launch of ESPN's direct-to-consumer app, the massive deals ESPN made with the NFL and WWE, hiring talent vs. developing talent, preparing for ESPN's first Super Bowl, the state of ESPN in 2025, and more. Host: Bryan CurtisGuest: Jimmy PitaroProducer: Kyle Crichton Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 11 August 2025

A Readout on ESPN’s Deals With the NFL and WWE. Plus: NBA Mouthpiece Summer and the New York Post Comes to L.A.

Hello, media consumers! Bryan and Joel start the show with J-School, discussing the new threats to the Voting Rights Act of 1965 as well as the ongoing Texas redistricting fight (01:43). Next, they dive into some headlines, starting with the deals made by ESPN this week. First, they go through all the details from the ESPN-NFL deal, including what properties ESPN acquired from the NFL, and they debate whether Donald Trump will try to interfere (13:40). After, they break down the WWE’s deal with ESPN, who acquired the rights to air all of WWE’s live premium events starting in 2026 (30:30). They then move on to how Shams Charania has affected the NBA media since Woj retired and LeBron James's dwindling power in the news cycle (35:27). Lastly, Bryan and Joel discuss the New York Post’s announcement that a sister publication will be coming out west (45:28). Hosts: Bryan Curtis and Joel AndersonProducer: Jessie Lopez Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 7 August 2025

Who Won the ESPN-NFL Deal? Plus, the WaPo Exodus Continues and a Report From SummerSlam

Hello, media consumers! Bryan and Davis recount their trip to Part 2 of SummerSlam last night (0:20) before tackling some headlines, including ESPN and NFL moving forward with their proposed blockbuster media deal, more heavy hitters leaving The Washington Post, and an upcoming Kamala Harris book (22:00). They also discuss Bryan's brief time in used-book heaven at the Brattle Book Shop in Boston, and offer a remembrance of his Uncle Rod (44:15). Plus, the Overworked Twitter Joke of the Week and David Shoemaker Guesses the Strained-Pun Headline! Hosts: Bryan Curtis and David ShoemakerProducer: Kyle Crichton Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 4 August 2025

The Fall of Shannon Sharpe, the End of Sports and Late-Night TV, and the 2025 Media Diet With Bomani Jones

Hello, media consumers! Joel Anderson is joined by Bomani Jones to discuss a few media headlines, including ESPN's decision to part ways with Shannon Sharpe and the serious gambling allegations against Gilbert Arenas (4:09), before they look at the future (or lack thereof) of sports television, being a generalist vs. a specialist in 2025, the rise of "grifter content," and more (24:50). Finally, Joels closes the show with a lightning round of questions for Bomani (52:42). Host: Joel AndersonGuest: Bomani JonesProducer: Kyle Crichton Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 31 July 2025

Hulk Hogan Vs. Gawker, Bill Belichick Fever, and the New Washington Post Exodus

Hello, media consumers! Bryan and David cover some headlines, including the approval of the Paramount-SkyDance merger, a discouraging new study about google searches and AI, Bill Belichick rapidly approaching his first game as a college head coach, the WaPo exodus (cont.), and more (9:45), Then, they discuss the wide-ranging obituaries of the late Hulk Hogan, "obit wars" whenever a complex figure passes away, and Hulk Hogan vs. Gawker in the early 2010s (27:15). Plus, an addition to the "Only in Journalism" vocabulary list, and David Shoemaker Guesses the Strained Pun Headline 'The Mortal Hulk Hogan' by David Shoemaker Hosts: Bryan Curtis and David ShoemakerProducer: Kyle Crichton Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 28 July 2025

The ESPN-NFL Wedding, Hunter Biden Speaks, and Pat McAfee’s Apology

Hello, media consumers! Bryan and Joel start the show with J-School, reexamining Zach Baron's interview on profile writing, before discussing the news of Hulk Hogan's death at the age of 71 (1:03). Next, they run through some headlines, including the possible marriage of ESPN and the NFL, what exactly is going on regarding the Epstein files, and Hunter Biden's three-plus-hour-long interview with Channel 5's Andrew Callaghan (14:07). Finally, they discuss Pat McAfee's belated apology and Jon Stewart's reaction to Paramount dropping 'The Late Show' (53:21) before making some weekend recommendations. Hosts: Bryan Curtis and Joel AndersonProducer: Kyle Crichton Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 24 July 2025

Headline Catch-Up: Colbert Is Canceled, NPR and PBS Are Defunded and FS1's Barstool Shake-Up. Plus, 25 for 25: NYT's David Marchese on the Future of Interviewing

Hello, media consumers! Bryan and David discuss dueling theories on why Paramount decided to cancel 'The Late Show With Stephen Colbert,' NPR and PBS losing federal funding, The Wall Street Journal's Trump/Epstein scoop, and FS1's shake-up that leaves Joy Taylor out and 'Barstool Sports' in (8:42). Then, Bryan is joined by David Marchese of The New York Times to discuss his extensive history of interviewing, his preparation process, the future of the format, how podcasts changed his approach to conducting interviews, and stories from some of his favorite subjects, including Norm Macdonald, Nicolas Cage, and more (41:48). Finally, stick around for David Shoemaker Guesses the Strained Pun Headline (1:28:50). Hosts: Bryan Curtis and David ShoemakerGuest: David MarcheseProducer: Kyle Crichton Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 21 July 2025

25 for 25: The Future of Celebrity Profiles With GQ’s Zach Baron

Hello, media consumers! Bryan is joined by GQ’s Zach Baron to discuss every aspect of celebrity profiling: how they are “brokered”; the process of interviewing; some of his past subjects, including Martin Scorsese, Brendan Fraser, and Tilda Swinton; and more. Then Bryan asks the following question: “Is the celebrity profile dead or dying?” Host: Bryan CurtisGuest: Zach BaronProducer: Kyle Crichton Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 17 July 2025

25 for 25: The Future of Physical Media With Sean Fennessey

Hello, media consumers! Bryan is joined by Sean Fennessey to discuss the future of owning physical media! (3:30) Magazines(17:55) Blu-Rays and DVDs(25:32) Books(34:47) Newspapers(50:11) CDs and vinyl Host: Bryan CurtisGuest: Sean FennesseyProducer: Kyle Crichton Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 14 July 2025

The Floods in Texas

Bryan and Joel discuss the Texas flash floods, how the story hits them as parents and Texans, the slow trickle of information, defensive posturing from Texas leadership, misinformation gaining traction online, and more. Host: Bryan Curtis and Joel AndersonProducer: Kyle Crichton Texas Deserves Far Better Than This by Joel Anderson Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 10 July 2025

The Times’ Mamdani Story, David Foster Wallace Revisited, and Josh Dawsey on the 2024 Election

Hello media consumers! Bryan and David discuss the NYT's story on Zohran Mamdani and what the point was of running their "scoop" obtained in a hack of Columbia University records, new info on the Epstein files reports there are in fact no files, and new contenders for "Worst Question Ever Asked at the White House" (7:15), before revisiting David Foster Wallace's 2006 piece on Roger Federer entitled, 'Roger Federer as Religious Experience' (22:25). Next Bryan is joined by WSJ's Josh Dawsey to discuss his new book, '2024: How Trump Retook the White House and the Democrats Lost America' co-written with Tyler Pager and Isaac Arnsdorf (41:25). Finally David and Bryan reconnect in wake of the new 'Superman' film to discuss Clark Kent the journalist, and for David Shoemaker Guesses the Strained-Pun Headline (1:09:10)! Hosts: Bryan Curtis and David Shoemaker Guest: Josh Dawsey Producer: Kye Crichton Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 7 July 2025

Paramount Bends the Knee, the Great Gavin Newsom Debate, and the End of Netflix Announcer Sharing. Plus, Matthew Lee on Covering the Diddy Trial From the Southern District of New York Courthouse.

Hello, media consumers! Bryan and Joel present both sides of an argument around Gavin Newsom's lawsuit against Fox News (1:29), reporters live tweeting Wednesday night's congressional session, Netflix's NFL announcer problem, and Paramount becoming the latest media company to settle a lawsuit with Donald Trump (21:53). Next, Joel is joined by Matthew Lee of the Inner City Press to discuss his coverage of the Sean "Diddy" Combs trial, stories from covering the Southern District of New York, how institutions treat new media, and more (40:54). Bryan and Joel then close the show with some weekend recommendations (1:15:35)! Hosts: Bryan Curtis and Joel AndersonGuest: Matthew LeeProducer: Kyle Crichton Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 3 July 2025

Anna Wintour (Sort of) Leaves Vogue, the NYT's Top 100 Movies List, and the Bezos Nuptials

Hello, media consumers! Bryan and David reunite to discuss coverage of Jeff Bezos's wedding and The Washington Post's puzzling new feature (0:42), before they parse through reports about Anna Wintour (sort of) leaving her position at Vogue and the masterly, divisive NYT "100 Best Movies of the 21st Century" list (10:01). They also talk about Gavin Newsom's lawsuit against Fox News, the shifting power of the opinion columnist, another addition to the Hall of Departed Journalists, and more (22:48). Plus, the Overworked Twitter Joke of the Week and David Shoemaker Guesses the Strained-Pun Headline! Hosts: Bryan Curtis and David ShoemakerProducer: Kyle Crichton Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 30 June 2025

Zohran’s New York Shocker, NBA Draft Audio, and What Is a "Hit Piece" in 2025? Plus, 25 for 25: Heather Cox Richardson on Trump and Iran.

Hello, media consumers! Bryan and Joel discuss some awkward NBA draft coverage, the NYC Democratic mayoral primary, and what constitutes a hit piece (10:57). Then, in another edition of 25 for 25, Bryan is joined by historian Heather Cox Richardson to talk about Donald Trump's fervent attempts at creating a narrative around the USA's air strikes on Iran; best practices to stay informed in today's media climate; Barack Obama's humble approach to his post-presidency era; the origins of her newsletter, 'Letters From an American'; and more (44:29). Finally, Joel and Bryan reconvene for a quick interview postgame and to share some weekend recommendations (1:18:07). Hosts: Bryan Curtis and Joel AndersonGuest: Heather Cox RichardsonProducer: Kyle Crichton Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 26 June 2025

Trump’s Iran Rollout, Game 7’s Injury TV, and Andrew Schulz vs. The New York Times

Hello, media consumers! Joel (in for David) and Bryan put a wrap on ESPN's presentation of the NBA Finals (0:41), before discussing the Trump administration's press tour after carrying out air strikes on Iranian nuclear sites (18:00), some puzzling New York City mayoral primary coverage, Andrew Schulz's thought-provoking conversation with the NYT about interviewing newsmakers, and Chip Caray's unfortunate slip of the tongue during an MLB broadcast (34:01). Finally, they close the show with the Overworked Twitter Joke of the Week, more submissions of bizarre press box behavior, and Joel Anderson Guesses the Strained-Pun Headline (1:03:18). Hosts: Bryan Curtis and Joel AndersonProducer: Kyle Crichton Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 23 June 2025

Tucker Carlson Vs. Ted Cruz, the Finals Goes 7, and the Media A-Team

Hello, media consumers! On this Friday edition of the show, Bryan helps Joel wrestle with a question: "Should I subscribe to The Washington Post if it is my local paper?" (1:41). They then tackle some headlines, including the ambiguity of the USA's involvement with the Israel–Iran War and Tucker Carlson's instantly viral interview with Ted Cruz (17:18). Later, they discuss NBA Finals Game 6 coverage, Stephen A. Smith grabbing headlines again—this time by calling out the city of Memphis—how streaming affects sports fandom, and more (38:22). Finally, they close the show by selecting the Solidarity With Stephen A. contest winners, then talk weekend recommendations (1:06:22). Hosts: Bryan Curtis and Joel AndersonProducer: Kyle Crichton  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 20 June 2025

Solidarity With Stephen A., The Washington Post’s Latest Reboot, and Gustavo Arellano on Covering the L.A. Protests

Hello, media consumers! Bryan and David discuss another Washington Post "reboot," this time for its opinion section (0:41). They go on to offer some low-hanging fruit for ESPN's lackluster NBA Finals coverage and discuss Stephen A. Smith, who was seen playing solitaire during Game 4; a noticeable shift in the norms of Washington, D.C., reporting; and more (10:41). Finally, Gustavo Arellano of the L.A. Times discusses covering recent protests across the greater Los Angeles area, what the national media is missing, Trump vs. California, and more (38:38). Plus, the Overworked Twitter Joke of the Week and David Shoemaker Guesses the Strained-Pun Headline! Hosts: Bryan Curtis and David ShoemakerGuest: Gustavo ArellanoProducer: Kyle Crichton Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcribed - Published: 16 June 2025

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