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Star Trek The Next Conversation - a comedy Star Trek podcast currently about TV's Deep Space Nine DS9 (or TNG)

Star Trek The Next Conversation - a comedy Star Trek podcast currently about TV's Deep Space Nine DS9 (or TNG)

Matt Mira and Andrew Secunda

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4.8 • 2.2K Ratings

Overview

Podcast… the final frontier! "Star Trek: The Next Generation" devotee and authority Matt Mira leads Next Gen skeptic Andrew Secunda into the deepest reaches of the series episode by episode and beyond! Listen as they discuss, debate, and enjoy all the legendary show's strengths, failings, and innovations. Email us! STTNCPOD@gmail.com Twitter/X/TikTok/Youtube: @StarTrekTNC Web: startrektnc.com Patreon: www.patreon.com/startrektnc

291 Episodes

DS9 s4e23 "To the Death"

In a plot-packed thrill ride, the crew team up with the Gom Jabbars (or so Jay Leno thinks), Jeffrey Combs continues his unbroken Trek character home run streak, and Matt and Andy pause from asking, "Why isn't Odo using his T-1000 hands?" to ask, "Why did they wait so long to bring Odo in to use his T-1000 hands?"[Episode discussion begins around 1:25]

Transcribed - Published: 5 June 2026

DS9 s4e22 "For the Cause"

An Andy's Theory (or prediction?) finally comes true - SECUNDA!! And is Kasidy Yates up to something? The crew continues to discuss her whether she's onscreen or off.[Episode discussion begins around 1:38 (!)]Post your PRIORITY ONE comments and/or questions here and they’ll get special consideration to be read in the TNC prime pod or Patreon bonus pods! And if you’re in the President’s Circle, you may be the honored recipient of a Christopher Pike Medal of Valor! [Brief and concise raises your chances of reaching air as there is generally no editing of hails, but you do you!]If you have jingles or sound bites or images to send, use sttncpod@gmail.com but let us know whether you’re on the Lieutenants level or in the President’s Circle and include the title of episode your hail is regarding in the subject heading.Send voice hails to (816) TREK-TNC – be sure to mention that you’re a member of these lofty lounges so we can give you the special attention a Starfleet officer deserves!Or, y’know, just feel free to chat here with each other, for you special members of our crew are indeed the best and the brightest.

Transcribed - Published: 30 May 2026

DS9 s4e21 "The Muse"

Jake gets an alien writing teacher who wants to teach him how to be a famous writer and Lwaxana is back in town! Lwaxana and Jake-writing-episode fans rejoice![Episode discussion begins around 1:20ish (sort of, there are more digressions after that đź––)]

Transcribed - Published: 15 May 2026

DS9 s4e20 "Shattered Mirror"

After a casual hang with Mirror Jennifer Sisko, Jake and Ben take a day trip back to the Mirror Universe to help MirrO'Brien fix up the the MirroDefiant. Meanwhile, is that Mirror Bashir? Or someone who's playing the villain in a childrens' play?[Episode discussion begins around 56:00]

Transcribed - Published: 23 April 2026

DS9 s4e19 "Hard Time"

O'Brien torture porn in full swing! The Chief is put behind bars... and when he gets out Bashir can't wait to box out Keiko for their reunion! [ENDING WAS CLIPPED, DELETE AND RE-UPLOAD IF IT IS][Episode discussion begins around 1:09]

Transcribed - Published: 11 April 2026

DS9 s4e18 "Rules of Engagement"

Sisko takes time out of running the station to defend Worf from being too Klingon-y. Is it another great Trek legal foray or will this episode be overruled by Matt or Andy?[Episode discussion begins around 1:12]

Transcribed - Published: 27 March 2026

DS9 s4e17 "Accession"

The Sisko is joined by another guy who thinks he's the Emmisary (what, can ANYBODY call themselves an emmisary?) and quiet discussion ensues! Oh, and a casual homicide. And the boys asks the question: have Bajorans always been religious kooks?[Episode discussion begins around 53:00]

Transcribed - Published: 22 March 2026

DS9 s4e16 "Bar Association"

Rom becomes a union man! O'Brien reveals just how bored he was on the Enterprise! And Worf...is vaguely disgruntled with living on DS9?[Episode discussion begins around 1:15]

Transcribed - Published: 22 February 2026

DS9 s4e15 "Sons of Mogh"

Tony Todd returns, killing it as Kurn as he demands that Worf kills him! Is Worf's solution honorable or extra weird and messed up?[Episode discussion begins around 55:00]

Transcribed - Published: 7 February 2026

DS9 s4e14 "Return to Grace"

It's back-to-back weirdos being weird about Kira, but this time it's Dukat! In an A plot that runs the length of the episode without check-ins back at the station, Kira and the ex-Gul enter a game of cat and mouse (or Bird of Prey and defrocked Cardassian?) and Matt and Andy are along for the ride.[Episode discussion begins around 45:00]

Transcribed - Published: 21 January 2026

DS9 s4e13 "Crossfire"

Kira forgets about Odo in this heart-breaking, difficult-to-watch, but undeniably great episode. And Odo FINALLY doesn't forget to use his T-1000 silver weapon hands to do SOMETHING.[Episode discussion begins around 51:00]

Transcribed - Published: 8 January 2026

DS9 s4e12 "Paradise Lost"

Is a badmiral trying to Make Earth Great Again? Has Avery Brooks finally found a plot to match the size of his performance? And can he outsmart Not Nick Lacarno from Not Nova Squadron? Either way, Not Leah Brahms may save the day!Happy Gratitude festival, crew! We are gratitudinal for all of you. [Episode discussion begins around 1:15]

Transcribed - Published: 23 December 2025

DS9 s4e11 "Homefront"

Dangers abound back in Sector 001 and that means it's time for a Sisko family vay-cay! Ben and his dad perform at the top of their lungs, Odo escapes Dax's merciless bullying to go seagull-to-seagull with the changelings, while Leah Brahms returns in her secret identity![Episode discussion begins around 50:00]

Transcribed - Published: 2 December 2025

DS9 s4e10 "Our Man Bashir"

Is Bashir the greatest Bond of all? If so, nobody tell Cubby Broccoli's legal department![Episode discussion begins around 1:01]

Transcribed - Published: 18 November 2025

DS9 s4e9 "The Sword of Kahless"

Worf joins Dax and his celebrity crush Kor for the grandest adventure of all until the Klingons go inexplicably insane.[Episode discussion begins around 58:00]

Transcribed - Published: 3 November 2025

DS9 s4e8 "Little Green Men"

In this delightful time-travel romp, the Ferengi trio jaunt over to apparently nearby Earth and find themselves Roswelled! And does Odo/James Cromwell eat/murder a dog? Matt and Andy discuss![Episode discussion begins around 1:02, MAN OF STEEL and Donner SUPERMAN spoilers around 28:00ish]

Transcribed - Published: 24 October 2025

DS9 s4e7 "Starship Down"

Sisko is out of commission, Kira finally learns how to treat him like a regular friend and not with all the reverence due the Emissary (had she been doing that?), Worf plays out the ol' "person suddenly in command who needs to learn how to be command" trope, and Bashir and Dax get cracking on retconning Bashir. But don't forget about Odo! Actually, you probably can except for one scene.[Episode discussion begins around 1:23 - for a whopping 2:45 for a regular episode! Mostly nonsense.]

Transcribed - Published: 13 October 2025

DS9 s4e6 "Rejoined"

Dax decides between a hook-up with the Borg Queen (sorta) or exile. Is resistance futile? And Matt and Andy ask (Seinfeld voice) "WHAT'S THE DEAL WITH TRILLS?"[Episode discussion begins around 49:00]

Transcribed - Published: 30 September 2025

DS9 s4e5 "Indiscretion"

Can two DS9 characters have a conversation without it being about Kasidy Yates? Not many of these scenes pass the Yates test! And does Dukat have a heart, and if so is it filled with cold blood?[Episode discussion begins around 1:10]

Transcribed - Published: 17 September 2025

DS9 s4e4 "Hippocratic Oath"

Bashir and O'Brien go head-to-head about whether to save some Jem'Hadar while Matt and Andy go head-to-head with the TNC crew about whether "The Visitor" is heartbreaking or just okay.[Episode discussion begins around 1:22]

Transcribed - Published: 23 August 2025

DS9 s4e3 "The Visitor"

Candyman Tony Todd appears as Jake Sisko through the ages - and in some insane age make-up! Todd and Avery Brooks also go head-to-head in a real theatrical-acting-off! Meanwhile Matt asks the question - couldn’t somebody at Starfleet have helped Jake with any of this? [Episode discussion begins 1:13ish. Voyager spoiler at 13:50ish for those who practice. OR IS IT NOT EVEN A SPOILER BECAUSE WE’VE WATCHED IT?]

Published: 18 August 2025

DS9 s4e1/s4e2 "The Way of the Warrior, Parts I and II"

Matt and Andy finally watch the arrival of Worf to DS9, as the MVC song prophesied. And boy, did everybody made a big deal out of Sisko's shaved head and the arrival of Worf being harbingers of awesomeness for the show...... but maybe they didn't make a BIG ENOUGH deal of how awesome it was about to get?[Episode discussion begins around 52 minutes in]

Transcribed - Published: 8 July 2025

DS9 s3e26 "The Adversary"

There's a spy aboard Defiant and everybody's got an excuse to act weird! And we see one of Andy's favorite complaints about Odo be proven right - he should be T2-ing and Mr. Fantastic-ing all over the place![Episode discussion begins around  1:06]

Transcribed - Published: 2 July 2025

DS9 s3e25 "Facets"

Jadzia meets her other hosts, and it's a sketch character showcase! Always wanted to meet Curzon? Well don't forget about Odo! But maybe forget about Curzon?[Episode discussion begins around 57:00]

Transcribed - Published: 10 June 2025

DS9 s3e24 "Shakaar"

Kai Winn continues to be one of the most duplicitous, unpalatable, self-serving, hypocritical leaders in Trek history - whew! Thank goodness it's just sci-fi.[Episode discussion begins around  1:12]

Transcribed - Published: 23 May 2025

DS9 s3e23 "Family Business"

We're goin' to Feringinar! Quark and Rom hit the Ferengi homeworld to SETTLE SOME BUSINESS! Is this a second downbeat episode in a row? Is the next one gonna be Bashir and Dax go to a thrift shop? Anyhoo, Matt tallies up the Andy-points but can the episode go latinum?[Episode discussion begins around 1:07]

Transcribed - Published: 3 May 2025

DS9 s3e22 "Explorers"

Ben and Jake sail through the universe powered by the ultimate B plot! Or is it just a plot? Meanwhile, Matt hasn't been feeling well and Andy's got a Thomas Riker-sized existential crisis, but so what else is new?[Episode discussion begins around 1:21, also trigger warning in the first 20 min for those sensitive to hearing about, um...tummy issues]

Transcribed - Published: 24 April 2025

DS9 s3e21 “The Die is Cast”

Garak goes full Obsidian Order, Odo needs a moisturizing routine, Eddington secures his place as Cmdr. F This Guy, and Andy fights an even greater threat to a podcaster than the Dominion...a sneezing fit![Episode discussion begins around 1:16. And this is a HIDE YOUR NUTS ALERT! Due to a scheduling...mm, issue? The next drop will be middle of the month.] 

Transcribed - Published: 8 April 2025

DS9 s3e20 “Improbable Cause”

It's a road trip with Garak and Odo (who we probably shouldn't forget about)! Will they solve the mysteries of what's happening on DS9? Or is Garak too much of a lazybones?[Episode discussion begins around 1:30. 45ish - Disco Spoiler, 2:33 - possible later DS9 spoilers, although it’s mostly Andy musing]

Transcribed - Published: 22 March 2025

DS9 s3e19 “Through the Looking Glass”

It's a Mirror episode, and you know what that means! Andy's gonna like it and Matt's gonna hate it - OR will our opinions be mirror-universed too?? Sisko steps into the Mirror Universe and boy, is he sorta shrugsville about it. And his dead wife Jennifer is back! Oh man, can't wait to see how Sisko's gonna...huh, just sort of chill about it. But at least Bashir/Vantika is back! Which is basically Mirror Alliance Bashir.[Episode discussion begins around 1:01]

Transcribed - Published: 6 March 2025

DS9 s3e18 “Distant Voices”

Bashir grapples with aspects of himself...like his professionalism! And his great love of tennis! It kinda doesn't really go beyond that.[Episode discussion begins around 1:23]

Transcribed - Published: 20 February 2025

DS9 s3e17 “Visionary”

O'Brien goes all Back to the Future 2, Bashir kills him and doesn't seem to care, and Matt and Andy ask who's the real MVC? O'Brien...or O'Brien??[Episode discussion begins around 1:14]

Transcribed - Published: 6 February 2025

DS9 s3e16 “Prophet Motive”

The Grand Nagus is acting kooky and it takes us several acts to find out why, but when we do, oh boy!.....we know then. But buckle up, because Dr. Bashir is nominated for an award, and Andy and Matt can't wait to hear who the other made-up nominees are! Several times. And someone's mispronouncing something, but you might be surprised who it's not.[Episode discussion begins around 1:27! I wish I could say the digressions end there.]For more information and extra content, visit patreon.com/startrektnc

Transcribed - Published: 1 February 2025

STAR TREK: GENERATIONS - a TNC special episode as part of the STAR TREK PODCAST CRAWL

Our most requested Star Trek content is for us to finally cover the movies - of course it would take more motivated forces to get us to do it, and now you got one! Matt and Andy cover in detail STAR TREK: GENERATIONS - Shatner cooking eggs, Data giving a McCauley Culkin, "YES!" and Picard entering his greatest dream - a Dickens-style Christmas? With a wrap-up crossing of the streams with our Star Trek podcaster brethren from Greatest Generation!Here's an overview of what's happening, and links to finding the other fine participating podcasts to give them a listen and how to donate to The National Center for Science Education:"This episode is part of a project called the Star Trek Pod Crawl. We’re a group of Star Trek podcasts raising money for science education by banding together and making special episodes about some of our favorite Star Trek films. Join us in supporting the National Center for Science Education and check out all other great podcast episodes in this series by visiting StarTrekPodCrawl.com"For more information on Star Trek: The Next Conversation:patreon.com/startrektnc

Transcribed - Published: 25 January 2025

DS9 s3e14 “Heart of Stone”

Kira faces becoming a permanently encased-in-resin collectible as Odo reveals a hidden - or possibly already pretty obvious - truth! Meanwhile Sisko performs a one man intervention scene on Nog in Nog's best ep so far. [Episode discussion begins around 1:07. And you know what they say about the winter and nuts...it's a great time to eat heated ones!]

Transcribed - Published: 14 December 2024

DS9 s3e13 “Life Support”

Kai Winn returns to DS9 with an evil...nothing? And Bareil sings his swansong as only he can...tediously.[Episode discussion begins around 1:17]

Transcribed - Published: 7 December 2024

DS9 s3e15 “Destiny”

The sparks fly between O'Brien and a filthy Cardie, while Andy asks how long we'll be watching Kira's new haircut, and Matt continues his lobbying for the Dominion.[Episode discussion begins around 1:05ish]

Transcribed - Published: 4 December 2024

DS9 s3e12 “Past Tense, Part II”

The second part of DS9's eerie vision of the "past" (aka 2024) as Sisko continues to masquerade as "Bell, Gabriel Bell" (Bond theme) while Frank Military continues to be an intimidating criminal to no one.[Episode discussion begins around 1:10]

Transcribed - Published: 23 November 2024

DS9 s3e11 “Past Tense, Part I”

In tense times, TNC is there to talk about episodes of Star Trek that throw back to exactly the same year with different tense times, but is that what they meant by the title? Also we ask the eternal question, "Is Frank Military a made-up name?"[Episode discussion begins around 1:01]

Transcribed - Published: 5 November 2024

DS9 s3e10 “Fascination”

Everybody's in love with everybody! Just like Naked Now, except crappy and with less sense! And also the return of the oozing non-sexuality of Bareil![Episode discussion begins around 1:30ish]

Transcribed - Published: 31 October 2024

DS9 s3e9 “Defiant”

The crew of DS9 get a visit...from an old friend. OR IS IT? [Episode discussion begins around 1:37ish]

Transcribed - Published: 14 October 2024

DS9 s3e8 20 “Meridian”

Jadzia is hot for a bland douchebag, Quark tries to pull some Barclay creepology with Kira, and Andy has a new theory about Sisko. [Episode discussion begins around 1:05ish]

Transcribed - Published: 20 September 2024

DS9 s3e7 “Civil Defense”

Someone's joined the Q Continuum (the TNC Patreon level - it's possible it also gains you access to the actual Q Continuum, we just can't promise)! Time to discuss! Meanwhile, Garak goes head-to-head with Dukat, Quark and Odo spend some alone time, and Jake, Ben, and O'Brien clamber around some ducts. But does this add up to Andy and Matt thinking the episode is good or bad? And can it be bad when it may have the funniest moment in all of Star Trek??[Episode discussion begins around  1:37 - LOOK, THE Q CONTINUUM?! WE HAD TO DOWNLOAD]

Transcribed - Published: 12 September 2024

DS9 s3e6 “The Abandoned”

Odo adopts a Jem'Hadar, who he tries to train out of murdering people by raising his bloodlust in the holodeck. Minor Mardah spoiler around 1:53ish, for the Mardiacs.[Episode discussion begins around  1:09ish]

Transcribed - Published: 5 September 2024

DS9 s3e5 “Second Skin”

DS9 s3e5 “Second Skin”Kira comes down with a bad case of the Cardies! And post-Vegas STLV, Matt and Andy are somehow even more fully off the rails than usual as the episode discussion begins around - get this - 2:06ish]And due to one of the many insane digressions in this episode, if any of you feel swayed to buy WWE 2K24, use one of these links. I signed us up to be Amazon Affiliates and I barely understand it, so let us know in the comments if you actually bought one and we'll see what happens, but obviously no pressure at all - just curious. (Not even if I had to make separate links for each platform, but whatevs)Ps4 standard https://amzn.to/46P5LHZPS4 deluxe https://amzn.to/4dRCVsRPS5 standard https://amzn.to/4cwjAMoPS5 Deluxe https://amzn.to/4dnjU1oPC Deluxe https://amzn.to/46Z35rmPC Forty Years of Wrestling https://amzn.to/4dsyg0AXBox One Standard https://amzn.to/3X8Fxg7XBox series X Standard https://amzn.to/4fLOLWZXBox series X Deluxe https://amzn.to/4dR0j9R

Transcribed - Published: 20 August 2024

DS9 s3e4 “Equilibrium”

A treasure trove of Trill answers for Andy.... in a super boring treasure chest? And Matt wonders if Jadzia is losing it - or is the character just getting interesting?[Episode discussion begins at a brisk 56:00ish]

Transcribed - Published: 28 July 2024

DS9 s3e3 “The House of Quark”

A Klingon episode that Matt actually likes? And can a regular, standard fantastic episode get 10 Andys? Have Keiko and O'Brien gone from a couple of wet noodles to Star Trek's horniest couple?Also, possible SPOILERS for those who practice: 8:00ish STAR TREK: PICARD 35:00ish-39:00ish STAR TREK (2009) Romulus stuff 1:14ish VOYAGER[Episode discussion begins around 1:37]

Transcribed - Published: 20 July 2024

DS9 s3e2 “The Search, Part II”

Odo meets his people then tosses something into one of his people’s strike zone…or does he? Matt and Andy discuss if people are really a-holes if somebody just dreams about them being a-holes. And now the conclusion.  [Episode discussion begins around 53:00ish]

Transcribed - Published: 30 June 2024

DS9 s3e1 “The Search, Part I”

There's a new starship in town, and this one's built to kick ass, Federation style! Wait, is that Federation style? Also, Matt and Andy continue to question if, in fact, the Dominion was right.AND MINOR ALERT: Due to a scheduling mess this month, we're gonna probably be recording "The Search, Pt 2" this Wednesday, although it might take a few days to get it posted, so if you want to listen fast and get your comments in, great! But if you want to comment in the subsequent episode on both, also feel free.][Episode discussion begins around  1:13. If it matters to anyone, lots of PICARD and STAR TREK 2009 spoilers at around 1:53-2:00]

Transcribed - Published: 26 June 2024

DS9 s2e26 “The Jem'Hadar”

It's a high octane thrill-ride of pew-pews! (eventually, and briefly.) Until then, it's a strangely slow farce on a camping trip. Is it fun or dull? Andy and Matt can't agree. And if you're a hailbag skip-per, check out the beginning for A BIG TNC NEWSFLASH![Episode discussion begins around 57:00ish]

Transcribed - Published: 18 May 2024

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