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The Bulwark Podcast

Zerlina Maxwell and Josh Barro: We Are in a Bad Place

The Bulwark Podcast

The Bulwark

News, Politics, Society & Culture, News Commentary

4.611.6K Ratings

🗓️ 6 August 2025

⏱️ 72 minutes

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Summary

Gerrymandering has always been partisan, but what's happening in Texas is straight-up racial politics. Republicans are targeting and trying to disenfranchise black voters while betting that Latino voters will stick with them. And because Trump hasn't had a lot of luck making the furor over Epstein and Ghislaine go away, JD is stepping in to host a totally 100% aboveboard damage control session at his house—with the top officials at the DOJ. Plus, the U.S. had almost zero job growth in May and June, the economy is slowing, and prices are ticking up.

Josh Barro and Zerlina Maxwell join Tim Miller.

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0:37.0

Hello and welcome to the Bullwark podcast. I'm your host Timer uh i got something of a quadruple header for you

0:38.0

today i'm off a vacation so you know buckle in um over on the bulwark takes feed i'd employ you to check

0:43.9

that out because with will summer i discuss an insane mag influencer girl feud that includes

0:50.7

accusations of public fingering at a t p u s a event so you know if you just need a little dessert today, I'll check that out. Sam Stein is on T&L. JVL's out. So me, Sam and Sarah are doing politics talk. You can check that out on the next level feed. And right here on the board podcast, it's a double header. In segment two, we got Josh Barrow talking all things, the economy, that jobs report, questions at the Fed. But first, she's a political analyst and host of mornings with Zerlina on Sirius XM. Her substack is the inner work dispatch at Zerlina Maxwell. What's up, girl? What's up? How are you? I haven't seen you in a long time. Yeah, it's been too long. I'm doing pretty good, all things considered. I went to Universal with two seven-year-olds yesterday. That's so fun.

1:30.6

So, you know, I'm alive, right? No, that's really fun, though. Was it yesterday or was it Monday? It was two days ago. It feels like yesterday. Actually, I flew all day with the child yesterday. Lean into the inner child. We were embracing that. That's true. Some whimsy.

1:44.8

Yeah. Finding some whimsy. I found a little whimsy on the Jurassic Park ride, I will admit. So we're doing good. Have you caught any of the Maga Girl feud? I have not. That was my first time hearing about it. You're in for a treat if you check out that video. You're in for a treat. I got to tell you. People are coming out of the wood.

2:01.3

Anyway, it's something else.

2:02.5

All right.

2:02.8

Let's do some real business stuff.

2:04.8

Oh, in for a treat if you check out that video you're in for a treat i got to tell you people are coming out of the woodwork anyway it's something else all right let's do some real business though i want

2:05.0

to first talk to me about the texas redistricting stuff there continues to be i guess new developments on

2:10.8

that front uh great abbott yesterday i began acting to remove te Democrat Gene Wu from office.

2:18.9

He's, I guess, the ringleader of the group of Texas Democrats that have left for Illinois

2:24.8

to deny the Republicans a quorum to redraw the districts.

2:30.2

There are a couple of different kind of elements of this.

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