Hello and welcome to another episode of IWave's Jermida Jameil, a podcast against shame.

How are you?

I'm good.

I'm excited because today's episode is fucking brilliant.

I have the excellent, excellent Zachary Levi on this podcast opening up in the most standing

way I've heard someone do so in a really long time.

It's such a great chat that I left feeling so energized and wanting to tell absolutely

everyone about the conversation I just had.

From the messages I'm already getting from all of you, it seems to be that you feel the

same way.

There's so much helpful, tangible, unpretentiously put information in this episode.

It's such a warm chat and he's just so honest and real.

We discuss generational trauma.

We discuss therapy, introspection.

We talk about hormonal depression, which I didn't really know a lot about and how Zach

has finally become comfortable talking about medication and taking medication.

We talk about how love can really be the answer the world needs, which sounds really cheesy.

I didn't really know exactly what the fuck he was talking about when he talked about love

because I don't really understand it because it's a very abstract concept for me and for

many people in the world.

I think it means something different to each of us, but his definition of what it means

to him is really stunning and I loved it.

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