The episode you're about to listen to was released back when the mere Christians podcast was called the call to mastery

Now if you love mere Christians, you're still going to love these older episodes because the majority of each

conversation focuses on how the gospel influences the work of our guests. With that disclaimer out of the way, please enjoy the episode. Hey everybody welcome to the call to mastery. I'm Jordan Rayner. This is a

podcast for Christians who want to do their most exceptional work, not for themselves,

not for their own fame and fortune, but for the glory of God and the good of others.

Every week, I host a conversation with a Christian who's pursuing world-class mastery of their craft.

We talk about their path to mastery, we talk about their daily habits,

and most importantly, we talk about how the gospel influences the work they do in the world. Today's guest is my friend

Zach Williams. He's the creator of the Untold, literally the only podcast I

listen to on a regular basis. He's also the chairman of a company called

Venvio, this digital agency that has about one client represented on every aisle of Lowe's and Home Depot.

Zach and I recently sat down to talk about why growth and comfort

cannot coexist.

Why Zach is grateful that the Lord has given him way more than he can handle in his life.

And we talked about this little known story from Chick-fil-A that inspired me to be intentional about not growing my business.

I think you guys are going to love this episode with my friend, Zach Williams. Zach Williams, my friend, finally, we have you here on the podcast.

Welcome. Thank you. We're excited to be here, George. my friend finally we have you here on the podcast welcome.

Thank you.

With excited to be here Jordan.

Long time listener.

Long time listener first time caller.

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