The episode you're about to listen to was released back when the mere Christians podcast was called the call to mastery

Now if you love mere Christians, you're still going to love these older episodes because the majority of each

conversation focuses on how the gospel influences the work of our guests. With that disclaimer out of the way, please enjoy the episode. Hey everybody welcome to the call to mastery. I'm Jordan Rayner. This is a

podcast for Christians who want to do their most exceptional work for the glory of

God and the good of others. Each week I host a conversation with the

Christian who's pursuing world-class mastery of their vocation. We talk about their

path to mastery, their vocation. We talk about their path to mastery, their daily habits, and how the

Gospel of Jesus Christ influences their work. Today's guest is my very good friend, Graham Cochran.

If you remember that name, it's because he was on episode number one

of the Call to Mastery and we're finally welcoming him back.

He's one of the most talented entrepreneurs I know,

the most talented, specifically when it comes to running an online business

that sells courses or memberships or other types of

digital content. Graham and I recently sat down to talk about how he came to view

his work as an entrepreneur as ministry even when he was simultaneously helping

to plant a church. We talked about the three steps to discerning what knowledge you have today that people will pay for.

And finally I think you guys are going to kick out of this.

We talked about our shared love of musical theater and our respective roles in West Side Story.

I may or may not have delivered by one line from West Side Story.

Here on the called master you have to listen and find out.

Guys you're going to get a ton of value out of this great conversation with my friend

Graham Kney. My good friend, Graham Cockburn, welcome back.

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