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From the Commonwealth Club of California, I'm Greg Dalton, and this is Climate One, leading the conversation about America's energy, economy, and environment. On the show today,

we're going on an adventure with the legendary explorer, an entrepreneur of Anshinard. The pioneering founder and owner of Patagonia is known for charting his own path through the wilderness and through

business. Rather than pushing customers to buy new jackets and gear,

his company helps people fix buttons and zippers

and collects worn out clothes for recycling.

In an industry not known for its social and environmental responsibility,

the company is a leader in understanding the impacts of its operations on people and the planet,

and works hard to do no unnecessary harm.

All that effort drives up costs, but Yvonne Shannard doesn't give a dang.

As a private company, the only shareholder sits across from him at the dinner table every night.

Ivan Shinar and his wife, Melinda, spent about half the year in the mountains of Wyoming,

far from corporate headquarters on the California coast north of Los Angeles.

He just published his revised and updated memoir, Let My People Go Surfing, the Education

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