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This feels terrible.

This is terrible.

I don't know the first thing about love.

Oh, hey there.

Welcome to This Feels Terrible, the podcast, your favorite podcast about relationships, love, sex, marriage, life, today, God. This podcast that we did today, this recording, this episode of the podcast, is one of my favorites.

My guest on the podcast this week is the beautiful, effervescent, wise, spiritual, fantastic, kind-hearted, event Nicole Brown.

You know her as Shirley from the show community.

She's wonderful.

And this interview is fantastic.

And she's fantastic because she offers a much different perspective

from other guests that we've had in the past.

She's a, she's, she's spiritual and, um, she is a celibate.

She practices celibacy, which is really fascinating and, and cool.

Uh, I was really excited to have her on, uh, on a personal level because as, as you know,

if you've listened to this podcast, I, I grew up in a very religious household. My father was

and still as a pastor. And I grew up very, like, very, very, very Christian and very, like, not, not rebellious Christian, like very very very Christian and very like not not rebellious Christian like very

very into it and um like very very passionate about my faith which kind of uh kind of just uh well it didn't

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