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The Russell Moore Show

Yuval Levin Provides Hope for American Unity

The Russell Moore Show

Russell Moore

Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.7 • 1.1K Ratings

🗓️ 2 July 2025

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

For Independence Day, we are running an episode of particular relevance from our archives. Could the Constitution provide the antidote to polarization? Yuval Levin thinks so. The director of social, cultural, and constitutional studies at the American Enterprise Institute, Levin is the author of a new book titled American Covenant. In it, and during this episode, Levin identifies the reasons people feel as though America is at a breaking point, as well as meaningful opportunities for reuniting. He and Moore consider why fragmentation is happening, the naiveté of cynicism, and ways the party system has—and hasn’t—worked well for the United States. They discuss partisanship, the potential upsides of ranked-choice voting in primaries, and the importance of seeing one another not primarily as political beings but as human beings. Yuval Levin’s work: American Covenant, How the Constitution Unified Our Nation—and Could Again by Yuval Levin American Enterprise Institute National Affairs The New Atlantis National Review The New York Times Resources mentioned in this episode or recommended by the guest include: The Abolition of Man by C. S. Lewis Hillbilly Elegy: A Memoir of a Family and Culture in Crisis by J. D. Vance “My Unsettling Interview with Steve Bannon” by David Brooks The West Wing: “Night Five” The Sword and the Trowel by Charles Spurgeon Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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to having you join us. I think the constitution is in a very fundamental way, a set of answers to the

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question. How can we possibly act together when we don't think alike.

1:15.5

Hello, this is Russell Moore, and this is the Russell Moore Show, brought to you by Christianity today. Here, we look for signposts in a strange time by standing fast to what really

1:22.2

matters, kingdom over culture wars, truth over tribalism, pilgrimage over partisanship, sanity over cynicism,

1:29.9

witness over winning, and Christ over everything. Today we have a conversation to do just that.

1:41.0

Hey, all, it's Fourth of July week, so we're taking a week off, but I thought that I would

1:47.1

tee up for you, an old conversation that I had with my friend Yuval Levin talking about a lot of

1:55.0

these issues in our country right now about polarization and how can we get through it.

2:00.0

And so listen to this, one of my favorites

2:03.1

of recent time, talking about how we can go forward. Next week, we'll be back with Nicholas Carr

2:10.6

to talk about the issues around social media, artificial intelligence, what's technology doing to us and where do we go from

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here? So be sure to check that out. Listen to you, Valvin.

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I am here with a friend of mine who, as I've mentioned on this program before, a former president of the United States once referred to him to me as got to be the smartest man in the country.

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