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Society & Culture, Science, Technology

4.61.3K Ratings

🗓️ 7 April 2020

⏱️ 23 minutes

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And it is telling the government. The Verge's Casey Newton explains how location data is helping fight coronavirus, and why even privacy advocates don't think that's such a bad thing. Featuring Casey Newton, Silicon Valley Editor at the Verge (@CaseyNewton) Links to resources discussed: Casey’s columns on location data: https://www.theverge.com/interface/2020/3/25/21192629/coronavirus-surveillance-location-data-taiwan-israel-us-google, https://www.theverge.com/2020/3/31/21199654/location-data-coronavirus-us-response-covid-19-apple-google, https://www.theverge.com/2020/4/3/21206318/google-location-data-mobility-reports-covid-19-privacy Google blog post on location sharing program: https://www.blog.google/technology/health/covid-19-community-mobility-reports Host: Arielle Duhaime-Ross (@adrs), host and lead reporter of Reset About Recode by Vox: Recode by Vox helps you understand how tech is changing the world — and changing us. Follow Us: Newsletter: Recode Daily Twitter: @Recode Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:03.0

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0:07.0

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0:11.0

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0:13.7

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0:18.4

Krakhan, see what crypto can be.

0:21.3

Don't invest unless you're prepared to lose all the money you invest.

0:25.0

This is a high-risk investment and you should not expect to be protected if something goes wrong. In early March of this year, or about a million years ago in pandemic time, we did an episode about

0:40.3

about surveillance and coronavirus. At the time, that meant turning our

0:44.8

gaze to China, where the government was using citizen's cell phone location data

0:48.9

to manage the pandemic. The idea that the US would use the surveillance technology to fight coronavirus

0:55.1

wasn't something most people had considered. Casey Newton is the Silicon Valley

1:00.4

editor at the verge and he says that changed really fast.

1:04.8

Like nothing should move that fast.

1:07.0

First, news broke the the CDC and some state governments were using location data

1:16.8

to see if the public was complying with social distancing measures.

1:20.5

And then just a few days later, Google announced that it was going to be using some anonymized

1:27.2

aggregated data of its own and start putting up reports about how people were complying with those orders.

1:34.0

Were you surprised by how quickly things changed?

1:37.0

Yeah, I'm always surprised when I write a column saying the government should do something

1:41.0

and then it does it two days later.

1:43.2

At this very moment, the US government

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